I want to put up a 4 element beam for horizontal base station to base station and DX usage when that starts happening again.

Beam will be on top of house on 5ft tripod with 10ft mast. no rotor will be used, I will point the antenna at the other base station for now and then when skip comes in just point it south and be done with it. Total height from the ground to the boom of the beam will be 28ft. I cannot go higher.

I do not have a budget, I will pay more for something that is tested better. That is why I am asking here since there is alot of people that have tested different beams...

Here is what I have been looking at:

Maco 104C
Wolf Radio WY4_11M
Jo Gunn Super Audio SA4
Sirio SY27-4
Cubex Magnum 4-CB

No gizmotchy or signal engineering, I dont want any type of vertical elements to deal with.

I look forward to your advice. I am really leaning towards the cubex quad since theoritically it should perform the best with lower noise but who knows?

Thanks!

They should all perform about the same. What you should concern you is which will be the longest lasting/hold up against weather and wind, etc. I really can't help you with that. I'm only slightly familiar with these manufacturers since I am rather cheap and try to build my own antennas whenever possible. When my antenna blows down I just throw it back on the roof.

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The 4 element Cubex quad should theoretically out-perform the 4 element yagi beams as the gain is "roughly" the equivalent of a 5 element yagi due to the higher gain of the full wave driven loop. Not a substantial amount, around 1.2 dB or so. YMMV. And you're correct about the quad being quieter as far as static from rain/snow/etc. Just my $.02.....

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has anyone tried the signal engineering super hawk or white lighting cubical quads

Considering the installation you suggest I would consider only the horizontal yagi type antennas. The quad may be lighter, but is much harder to handle working on a roof. If constructed and tuned properly, you should find good performance with any antenna suggested. Personally I don't recommend installing on your roof, but they can work just fine up there. Problem is having something that large attached to the house and the wear and tear on your roof.

I had the white lightning cubical quad. Worked real good until the wind toppled it over Tore it up real good. I now run a set of Maco 103's horizontal at 24ft that are ancient, but work real damn good Just my .02

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MACO 104C. There will be future performance upgrades available for this antenna.

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has anyone used the superhawk from s.e.im buyin one

A friend uses a 4 element Maco. He modified the antenna with a hot feed match and with 2000 watts RMS they hear him for sure. Im in the prosess of getting a tower up. I have everything I need but been working so much have not got it up. Im starting with a Maco H/V 105. Using a Delhi 48 ft freestanding tower and a Yeasu SA 800 rotator. Frigure the hard part is the tower. If im not happy with the antenna that will be an easy fix.

yep I ran the lightning4+ but later upgraded to the lightning 6 quad beam. Work great

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