So if one model of the 2950DX could not be modded for out of band....then why are all 2950s on the FCC blacklist???

An excellent example of the point I'm trying to make!!!

So CWM why not tell us what you really think?

Because they were all model 2950DX's. There was a change to the CPU inside that was not able to be distinguished by model number from the manufacturer.The boxes came with a differant colored dot on them. For instance a box with a "blue" sticky dot on it contained a radio that could be modded while a box with a yellow dot contained a radio that could not.

I just did!! If the goofs had stayed OUT of the ham bands, stayed ON 27 MHZ---even going just a bit above into the so-called "freeband",------- a reluctant FCC might have not even yawned about it. Even with the radios being illegal, even with the "bands of channels", even with the extra power they have, I'd bet we wouldn't even be having these threads.


CWM

Ok, so will you agree that "yellow dot" radios ARE NOT "CB transmitters" as defined by the FCC?

If you do cede that point, then how do we know that someone hasn't got a citation for selling a "CB transmitter" when in reality, the radio has no possible way of being a CB transmitter??

I'm not one to apply Constitutional law to FCC rules (most of the time it doesn't apply), but that seems to me a pretty obvious violation of the Equal Protection clause...

CWM, by your line of reasoning, one can conclude that giving condoms to teens is what makes them decide to have sex.
by your reasoning, we should not make cars that go over 65 mph because many, many drivers go faster than that even though they are not supposed to.
maybe we should outlaw guns because many, many people use them to do illegal things.

stop blaming the radios!!!

you know for a fact that your beef is with the people who misuse their radios.
direct your wrath at the people.
let the FCC deliver the fines to the people that get caught operating without a license on 10m, but dont take away the radios.

most every one of us has exceeded the posted speed limit at one time or another, and many of us have received a ticket for it, and paid our fines.

however, the government did not confiscate our cars under the guise that the vehicle in question had the ability to accelerate far beyond the posted interstate speed limits.

i think the FCC should lower the fines for unlicensed transmissions from individuals on ham bands to 500-1000 dollars and stop confiscating the radios.
this way the FCC might actually see some revenue from the citations they issue.LOL
and just like we all felt after we got a speeding ticket, we watch our speed because we know it can happen again.
(this is just me pontificating so dont flame me for it)



now, i started this thread to point out some interesting things in the wording of the FCC's statements, but it has evolved into something else that i find much more interesting.
that is the ebay side of all this.
no one seems to want to respond to this issue.
it seems like people are reading the first post and then just adding their 2 cents in without reading the rest of the posts.
please read all the posts if you want to respond.

so, anyone want to comment on what i brought up in regards to ebays "ham police"?


if it matters to anyone; i would never operate an export radio because i cant stand the noisy receivers in them.
the HR2510 and the AR3500 are the exceptions.
i got my ham license (technician class) in 1989 when i was 14 years old.
i tested for general that day, and passed the written part with a 90%. but missed the 13wpm code test by too many to pass. (yes, i had to learn morse code to get my ticket)

i let my license expire.
my opinion of hams comes from my years of listening to them, not from an unwillingness to get licensed myself.

i have met plenty of cool ham ops over the years, but i met them on the cb/freeband freqs. LOL

so, who wants to talk about ebay?
LC

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well yeah, but what's really going on?

'eBay'

Can be a good place to sell stuff, I'd be very skeptical about getting a bargain there. But, miracles do happen occasionally.
eBay is a privately owned 'company', offers no guarantees as to honesty, quality, legality of what is 'offered' there, or at least, not consistently. They can change their minds as often as they want to and can get away with.
Except in very few cases, a 'bargain' is more costly than the same thing bought at retail from a reputable dealer. And, if found to be defective in some way, it's now your 'defect', no practical recourse.
All of this is my opinion, certainly not provable fact. I'm happy with it, but you certainly do not have to be! I'll change my opinion the day after Hilary is declared a 'saint', and Obama enlists in the Marines. Maybe...
- 'Doc

w5lz,

sure, you have a point about what kinds of "bargains" are to be found on ebay.

however, when it comes to things like, oh, i dont know, old radio gear; a place like ebay is a godsend.

its like having a hamfest swap meet every day in the convenience of your own home.
the difference between ebay and the traditional ham swap meets is that you dont have some guy running around from table to table yelling, "dont sell him that linear!!! he's gonna misuse it!!!" and ruining everyone's good time.

(this is where i stop directing my post to W5LZ)

i really think its quite despicable for any ham to deprive a newcomer to the hobby of the exact same initiation they themselves received.

you guys all know what you've bought before/after you were licensed, what you've used to use to transmit with in the past, how much you learned from it, how much fun you had with it, why it brought you to the place you are now, and why you shouldnt be trying to take that away from the people who are just starting down that same path.

ok, thats all i wanted to say,
bark away,
LC

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well yeah, but what's really going on?

...woof woof...

Where can I view the FCC's "LIST" of non type-accepted cb transmitters

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