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Old 05-21-2009, 11:56 PM
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im curious as to what sort of criteria the FCC requires from the plaintiff in order to send out one of those letters.
anyone?
Often they will send an "official observer" to direction find the source of the interference and report back or send an actual FCC unit to locate and monitor the station causing it. If you see a non-descript van with antennas parked on your street...

Letters aren't just sent based on hear-say
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There was a post on Zed yesterday that I think was pulled but there were some good points. A fairly new Ham was complaining that the old timers look down upon him because he was a no-code Ham . It was observed that his conclusion wasn't based on anything that happened on the radio but from reading comments on the forum. A wise person told him that if you are basing your conclusion on what you read on the ZED throw it out as the ZED is not Ham radio. False pictures of Hams come about because of the running of the mouth by a select minority on the forum. It no way portrays how people will mostly treat you on the air. I think that is something people need to remember and realize . Even some of those Ham ops on Ham forums become CB Rambos when hiding behind a keyboard . When I became a member of the local Amateur club I told them I was a new Ham and have talked a lot on CB but Amateur radio was new for me. They never said one negative thing. They were excited that I was going to be excited making contacts around the world. I kept my mouth shut and never mentioned that I had talked all over the world on CB and probably made some contacts they would drool over. It was all good. I quit freebanding and am enjoying myself with several Ham bands that put me in contact with very neat qso's around the globe with ease . So take what you read on the internet with a grain of salt as they don't reflect the very large majority of Ham operators .
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Sonwatcher,

You beat me too it. You can't go by what a handful of people say on the internet, compared to the thousands of respectful operators who are more than willing to elmer new people in the hobby. In my 45 years in the radio hobbies as both a ham and cb operator, I have only run into a few operators who were "holier than thou". You usually did not hear them for very long before the faded from the scene.

Fellas and gals - enjoy whichever hobby you are in -- cb or ham -- and don't pay attention to the few who are "holier than thou"
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The "holier than thou hamers" are hard to ignore...they are like a boil on your butt.
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The "holier than thou hamers" are hard to ignore...they are like a boil on your butt.
Nothing like a good word picture ! LOL !
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It appears the only folks getting love letters are bleed monsters upsetting hams. Clipping that diode may be loud but the splatter kinda makes hams bothered.
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so,

from what i gather, if i call the FCC and complain that i am being interfered with during my 10 meter QSO's, and that i believe that interference is originating from a nearby CB radio station; then the FCC will send a van with one or possibly two agents to "stakeout" that person's house looking for illegal transmissions?

exactly how long will they stay there looking for these transmissions?
days? weeks?

how much is this costing our government???

these agents cant be very cheap, and the van with all the expensive equipment in it; that cant be cheap either.

and all it takes to begin spending all of this taxpayer money is a phone call from some sanctimonious ham op???


i for one think this is a big waste of resources and money that we just dont have, and i think i will write a letter explaining my position.
i'll bet i could get a lot of signatures on that petition.

the country is going broke, but we will pay for two guys to sit in a van for hours and hours watching a spectrum analyzer and listening to a cb radio???

all based on a phone call from a ham op.

who knows, maybe the FCC just sends the letter based on the ham op's complaint, and if they get a response from someone who admits that they operate a radio; then they know they've got a case. hmmm... LOL

i dont know, what do you guys think???
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I hate to get into a pissing session like this, but let's all of us face the facts.

1. C W Morse was an important method of communication in the "good old days", but now even the FCC realizes that CW MORSE is something best forgotten, which is why a code test is no longer a requirement for an amatuer license.

2. There are a lot of station operators (both Amatuer and CB) that operate WAY over the limits set by the FCC.

3. Cbers seldom bitch to the FCC about interference ..... they just figure out a way to make their stations loud enough to get over it.

4. Many amatuer operators wish that their stations sounded half as good on-the-air as their next door neighbor's Cb station. BUT... many CBers could learn a lot about cleaning up their signal by talking to some amatuers.

5. Persons such as CW MORSE, who CLAIM to be a licensed amatuer operator but NEVER post their call sign are nothing but a bunch of CB hatemongers who have nothing better to do but post a bunch of anti-CB BS.

Personally, I feel that all of the posts by CWM are just a bunch of CRAP ! ! When has he ever posted ANYTHING that wasn't anti-CB??? I am just a lowly CBer, but I joined this forum because the technical expertise here is SECOND TO NONE. Whenever I have asked for help, I have gotten good advise, and whenever someone else needed help, I have tried to provide it. To me, this is what this forum is all about, and the rantings of people like CWM are best ignored and forgotten.

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The horse is dead fellas, it's time to stop beating it.......

I too usual avoid these pissing matches, as they serve no good purpose, however I will add a few of my own observations to this mess, then leave it alone to die a slow death.....

#1. In the short time that I have been a member of WWRF, I have to concur that the only posts I recall being made by the member known as CW Morse have been for the most part anti-CB. This is not healthy for the forum, it benefits no one here, and only serves to stir up bad feelings between some of the membership. However his contributions here should be the sole business of the administrators & moderators, if what he has to say or post bothers you, use the "Ignore" function this forum provides....

#2. As I have stated before, there are a minority of hams that carry a bad attitude toward CB'ers, that is something that will probably always exist because CB requires no test or license, and amateur radio does. I don't personally agree with any ham holding any form of animosity toward a CB operator, it's a completely different radio service and hobby, and unless a CB'er is violating FCC policy that is directly causing them interference, no ham should even care what any CB'er is doing.....

#3. Just as there are bad hams, there are just as many bad CB'ers, some who take pride in violating every rule in the book, run extreme levels of power, and go out of their way to cause deliberate interference to other radio services. Just as the "Holier Than Thou" hams give the rest of us ham's a black eye, outlaw CB'ers do the same damage to all CB'ers.

These issues have existed for many years, and they will continue to exist for many more, there isn't anything any one of us can do to change what others do, or how they act. The only thing we can do is control our own actions.
This forum has been a great melting pot for all radio hobbies, in order for it to remain the great melting pot is for all of us to ignore the trolls, don't get sucked into those posts soley intended on stirring the pot, whether you're a ham or a CB'er, hold yourself above that level, and don't let the trolls have you for entertainment.....

Call it a flesh wound, and press on......
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The horse is dead fellas, it's time to stop beating it.......

I too usual avoid these pissing matches, as they serve no good purpose, however I will add a few of my own observations to this mess, then leave it alone to die a slow death.....

#1. In the short time that I have been a member of WWRF, I have to concur that the only posts I recall being made by the member known as CW Morse have been for the most part anti-CB. This is not healthy for the forum, it benefits no one here, and only serves to stir up bad feelings between some of the membership. However his contributions here should be the sole business of the administrators & moderators, if what he has to say or post bothers you, use the "Ignore" function this forum provides....

#2. As I have stated before, there are a minority of hams that carry a bad attitude toward CB'ers, that is something that will probably always exist because CB requires no test or license, and amateur radio does. I don't personally agree with any ham holding any form of animosity toward a CB operator, it's a completely different radio service and hobby, and unless a CB'er is violating FCC policy that is directly causing them interference, no ham should even care what any CB'er is doing.....

#3. Just as there are bad hams, there are just as many bad CB'ers, some who take pride in violating every rule in the book, run extreme levels of power, and go out of their way to cause deliberate interference to other radio services. Just as the "Holier Than Thou" hams give the rest of us ham's a black eye, outlaw CB'ers do the same damage to all CB'ers.

These issues have existed for many years, and they will continue to exist for many more, there isn't anything any one of us can do to change what others do, or how they act. The only thing we can do is control our own actions.
This forum has been a great melting pot for all radio hobbies, in order for it to remain the great melting pot is for all of us to ignore the trolls, don't get sucked into those posts soley intended on stirring the pot, whether you're a ham or a CB'er, hold yourself above that level, and don't let the trolls have you for entertainment.....

Call it a flesh wound, and press on......


The horse isnt dead till the thread gets locked,so piss off
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