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I hope that this woman has someone who can assist her in this matter with the FCC. I believe that I would be applying some pressure to the suits at Philips for some sort of representation. Then again, the idiots at the field office that filed this absurd citation may just drop the NAL/citation if the device is removed from service and destroyed. Philips would more than likely not want to claim any responsibility since they did not have control over the installation or use of the device. Maybe it is time for Obama to find another FCC Czar.

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I hope that this woman has someone who can assist her in this matter with the FCC. I believe that I would be applying some pressure to the suits at Philips for some sort of representation. Then again, the idiots at the field office that filed this absurd citation may just drop the NAL/citation if the device is removed from service and destroyed. Philips would more than likely not want to claim any responsibility since they did not have control over the installation or use of the device. Maybe it is time for Obama to find another FCC Czar.

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It may very well be the reason the citation was delivered, the FCC will now attempt to drag Phillips into a large suit and then fine them and hand down an earth shattering decree that they recall all unit affected and replace them.

They did this with the makers of the xm/sirius receivers with the addition of a pair of ferrite beads to eliminate the transmission of broadcast received which are inadvertently picked up by any nearby receiver that happens to be in range of it's FM modulator that happens to be tuned to the same frequency. I know it's bullshit.
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As I said, we don't know what happened. To discover the cause of the interference, she had to let them into the house to inspect the equipment. If they told her to shut it down and stop using it and she said no, or said yes but kept using it then they would issue a citation immediately. I am sure that Verizon is paying big licensing fees and so its complaints garner more attention than your every day citizen. On the other hand, the LA office of the FCC is one of the worst in the country. Dallas is a close second.
She did not have a transceiver IE radio station so they had no authority to enter her home.
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She did not have a transceiver IE radio station so they had no authority to enter her home.
I didn't say they had the authority to enter her home without permission. What I said was there was no way for them to know the make and model of the device without entering her home and inspecting it. She obviously gave them permission, either willingly or because of coercion.
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The reason FCC is so vigilant in this case is an oscillating TV preamp is a hazard to navigation.

Once they knew the source they could be called on the carpet if someone got killed.

A preamp emitting even a tiny amount of R.F. IS a transmitter.
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The reason FCC is so vigilant in this case is an oscillating TV preamp is a hazard to navigation.

Once they knew the source they could be called on the carpet if someone got killed.

A preamp emitting even a tiny amount of R.F. IS a transmitter.
Maybe so, but the FCC does not break cobras balls each time one of there radios is seized in a station raid for transmitting more power than is allowed neither should they assume all these devices are faulty such as in the xm/sirius case.
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The reason FCC is so vigilant in this case is an oscillating TV preamp is a hazard to navigation.

Once they knew the source they could be called on the carpet if someone got killed.

A preamp emitting even a tiny amount of R.F. IS a transmitter.

BS on a hazard to navigation. Maybe if the unit is on the plane and 10 feet from the cockpit, but it is not going to interfere with navigation while being operated in someone's house.
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BS on a hazard to navigation. Maybe if the unit is on the plane and 10 feet from the cockpit, but it is not going to interfere with navigation while being operated in someone's house.

Are you a pilot?

Are you an engineer.

B.S. based on what information.

Please back this up with something of substance.
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Are you a pilot?

Are you an engineer.

B.S. based on what information.

Please back this up with something of substance.

Based on common sense and based on testimony of FCC engineers. Common sense, we know that cell phones can interfere with planes, but you don't see planes crashing everytime they fly over a cell tower. FCC engineers admitted in the Ranger case that you have to be on the plane to interfere with navigation unless you have about a 1000 watts of power and you are sitting under the flight path. I don't think that the woman's antenna had a 1000 watts of power.
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Based on common sense and based on testimony of FCC engineers. Common sense, we know that cell phones can interfere with planes, but you don't see planes crashing everytime they fly over a cell tower. FCC engineers admitted in the Ranger case that you have to be on the plane to interfere with navigation unless you have about a 1000 watts of power and you are sitting under the flight path. I don't think that the woman's antenna had a 1000 watts of power.

Come back when you actually know something based on facts. Your status is zero.
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