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Sonwatcher · #11 10-22-2009, 07:23 AM

You're correct Doc-

Quote:

Given the public interest in facilitating government-sponsored emergency preparedness and
disaster drills, we take this opportunity to provide a clear process for requesting a waiver, and the
information that we require in order to consider granting such a request.4 Waiver requests should be
submitted to the Wireless Telecommunications Bureau by the government entity conducting the drill, and
must provide the following information: (1) when and where the drill will take place; (2) identification of
the amateur licensees expected to transmit amateur communications on behalf of their employers; (3)
identification of the employers on whose behalf they will be transmitting; and (4) a brief description of
the drill. We emphasize that the filing of a waiver request does not excuse compliance with the rules
while that request is pending. The waiver must be requested prior to the drill, and employees may not
transmit amateur communications on their employer’s behalf unless the waiver request has been granted.

http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_publi...-09-2259A1.pdf

layjohn · #12 10-22-2009, 04:46 PM

At least they haven't started taxing us yet on our usage. With this administration any thing is possible.

moleculo · #13 10-22-2009, 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by layjohn

At least they haven't started taxing us yet on our usage. With this administration any thing is possible.

Don't give them any ideas!

C W Morse · #14 10-22-2009, 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Shioda

Maybe the FCC's plan is to keep narrowing the scope of Amateur usage to the point where there is no justification for the frequency allocations. Then the FCC can take everything but one band, reserved for Amateurs. Say the 10 meter band.

Sorry, but FCC can't "take" the 10 Meter band. There is a pesky ITU treaty the the US signed. Sure, they could prevent amateurs from using it, but because it is reserved for use by treaty, they couldn't just re-assigned it in the US for something else. Leastwise, that's the way I understand it.

CWM

TonyV225 · #15 10-22-2009, 06:47 PM

LMAO!! @ THE TAXING US STATEMENT. That will be next Im sure or pay buy the hour?? LOL!! Or a $1.60 every 10 minutes of 160 use and $0.80 every 10 minutes of use for 80 meters and so on

Shioda · #16 10-22-2009, 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by C W Morse

Sorry, but FCC can't "take" the 10 Meter band. There is a pesky ITU treaty the the US signed. Sure, they could prevent amateurs from using it, but because it is reserved for use by treaty, they couldn't just re-assigned it in the US for something else. Leastwise, that's the way I understand it.

CWM

First off, the FCC doesn't care about the law. They think they are the law, at least when it comes to communications. Second, you misread the post. I said that maybe they leave only the 10 meters for Amateurs. In any event, it was facetious since the old timer Amateurs working in the FCC are not about to let the FCC take away any Amateur frequencies.

TonyV225 · #17 10-22-2009, 07:46 PM

UUUMMM unless I really super mistaken the FCC is the communications law!!

kd7eir · #18 10-23-2009, 01:34 PM

The FCC are the enforcers of communications law in the USA. While they do not make the laws, they are free to implement regulations as they see fit.

As for "taking" 10 meters, the FCC can reassign ANY frequency allocation in the USA that is not controlled by the NTIA. If you doubt this just look at that missing chunk of the 220MHz band that USED to be allocated to amateur radio.

As for the ITU ultimately controlling the spectrum through treaties - the ITU had no power to force the broadcasters to relocate on the 40 meter band - they recommended it, the countries signed on to the recommendation, but in the end it was entirely up to the broadcasters to relocate or not.

Out of nothing more than international goodwill, the FCC should try not to reallocate any band in a way that would cause interference to other users, but they are still free to do so if they see fit.

Every single hz that we have the PRIVILEGE to use is susceptible to being reallocated to another service at any time.

W5LZ · #19 10-23-2009, 01:58 PM

THAT is about the simplest and best way of saying it that I've heard in a long, long time. It doesn't mean you have to 'like it', but it's the way it is.

- 'Doc

TonyV225 · #20 10-23-2009, 02:02 PM

DITTO

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