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Old 08-02-2008, 12:21 PM
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Question New Base Set-up...Suggestions


Well...Where do I start?

Never had a base and I'm in the process of acquiring all associated equipment/accessories. All of my radio enjoyment has come from mobile units running up and down the road in my diesel wagon(18 wheeler). Looking for LARGE and QUALITY audio. Ill list what I currently have/want and you folks can hopefully let me know what I need.


Radio: Using a Galaxy 33 until funds become available for dedicated base unit
Power: Iota 90 amp power supply
Amps: Choice of 2 Worldwide 2x4(2290,2879) or Elkin 12 tube w/ spare set of new tubes
Tower: 55" free standing on the ground waiting to be cleaned/painted/raised
Coax: 100' unknown mfg. Diameter as large as little finger. Checked good with meter. Came w/tower
Antenna: Plan on Maco 5000.. Waiting on tower cleanup B4 purchase. Not interested in beams. Surrounded by contacts and beams would look like a helicopter trying to keep up.

Well that's about it. Look this over and fire away. Open at this point to any suggestions from folks that have been at this for a while. Don't be bashful. I have thick skin and not easily offended.



Thanks all,
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Old 08-02-2008, 12:58 PM
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hell, other than an antenna, i'd say your ready to talk. you've made a good choice on the maco v5000. i have one and it talks great.
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Old 08-02-2008, 06:50 PM
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everything you have there sounds great, except for the 2x4 amps.

the 2x4 amp as a design is just a bad idea to my mind.

its all about pushing transistors up into their saturation points and fooling wattmeters in my opinion.

you probably wouldnt have noticed in the mobile, but at home, those amps will most likely cause interference to your TV, computer, phone, or any number of things around your, or your neighbors house.

run the tube amp and you will always be happy.

im not sure about the drive for that amp, but i think it should be a low drive amp meaning that you should drive it with 2.5 to 3 watts deadkey, and no more than around 20 watts PEP. (swing)

ive read that the 12 tube elkin will do about 800 watts, and that they were built for big modulation, not big power numbers on the meter.
a guy named ray in NC built them back in the day and apparently he will still work on them. no idea how to contact him though.

make sure you read this, so you know how to TUNE and LOAD that amp, so you dont have to replace the tubes prematurely.

so, use your base station, or the 33, connected to the amp, and the amp to your wattmeter/SWR meter, then out to the antenna.

i would buy my own coax, as old stuff tends to have problems with water egress and other maladies.

get some belden 9913, or LMR400, or at least some new RG8u coax with ends put on the right way. (solder in all four holes on the PL259 connectors!)
length doesnt matter, just use enough to get from the radio room to the antenna and you will be fine.

inspect the coax you have and make the call yourself.
just remember how much it will suck if you have to replace it after you get everything up in the air!

good luck,
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Doodad -

If you're getting ready to put a base station together, the most important thing is the antenna. All the power in the world won't do you any good if your antenna isn't right. Go to this site: WWW.signalengineering.com/ultimate to see how to properly install and ground your antenna. Then buy some new HIGH QUALITY coax. Use the stuff that came with the tower for jumpers. If you have a transistor amp, I would suggest using it over the tube amp. Tubes tend to degrade over time, and require replacement for mucho dinero. Transistors, on the other hand, last forever if you treat them right. As time goes by, you will learn, and get to know what is the best equipment for you and your situation. But right now, what you have is a great start, and you will have a good STRONG station to begin with. Just take your time putting everything together and don't cut corners. Remember, anything worth doing is worth doing RIGHT (the first time). When you get it all set up, try to hook up with me on 26.955. Good luck.

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I have to say , no need to go overboard on coax.

Line loss at 27Mhz isn't much.

I use my LMR 400 for VHF/UHF where it's needed.
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The 2X4 is not a good idea, a 1X4 is better.
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I DISAGREE SOME WHAT WITH 74IN ON THE COAX. IN MY OPINION HIGH QUALITY COAX IS VERY IMPORTANT IN A BASE STATION. USE THE BEST YOU CAN AFFORD IT WILL SAVE YOU MONEY IN THE LONG RUN. I WISH YOU GOOD LUCK WITH YOUR STATION. BTW THE MACO V-5000 IS A FINE ANTENNA.

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too a point i agree one should get the best coax they can afford
but given you have antenna not too far away
likely LMR400 will do fine for 11 meters

i do however have issue with that garbage power supply
best give it up
i may be able to find a reasonable use for it

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