1. In celebration of the launch of the new redesigned site, we just gave away a FREE antenna! Click Here to See Who Won!

Dual band vs. HF+6+2+440 Opinions

Discussion in 'Ham Equipment' started by 2RT307, Jul 17, 2013.

  1. 2RT307

    2RT307 Sr. Member

    Joined:
    Nov 22, 2011
    Messages:
    1,329
    Likes Received:
    257
    Hi guys, finally getting around to taking a course for tech license over the next two Saturdays. I haven't even passed the test yet, but have started thinking about getting a dual band mobile. However, my ultimate goal is to get General, and to be able to play (nearly unlimited) HF as well. So to get a rig that I can afford, I'd either be looking at the Icom 706 MkIIG (used) or a new Yaesu FT-857D to give me the features that I want. I do have the room, but don't really want to run an HF rig and separate dual band mobile in my truck. Hence the reason for wanting the all-in-one rig. What have you guys seen that have been there, done that? Pro's cons of either one of these choices? Are there better choices out there?

    73,
    RT307


     
    #1
  2. Mudfoot

    Mudfoot Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Jun 17, 2009
    Messages:
    7,514
    Likes Received:
    2,194
    I've owned both. For mobile use, I'd go with the Yaesu. Parts for the ICOM are drying up.
     
    #2
    1 person likes this.
  3. doctor

    doctor Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Aug 1, 2006
    Messages:
    910
    Likes Received:
    40
    radio

    I would go for the YAESU, can't go wrong..I have owned a YAESU FT857D, no problems and it still goes along..
    DOCTOR
     
    #3
    1 person likes this.
  4. KingCobra_CDX882

    KingCobra_CDX882 W9WDX Amateur Radio Club Member

    Joined:
    Mar 30, 2005
    Messages:
    2,037
    Likes Received:
    42
    I can Say..
    706 MKIIG for Several Years..
    Zero Issues and Works Great !!
     
    #4
  5. w9cll

    w9cll W9WDX Amateur Radio Club Member

    Joined:
    Jan 19, 2013
    Messages:
    1,754
    Likes Received:
    623
    Another one for the 706MKIIg but yes they are getting a bt old now. I have only had one issue with mine and that was a vco pot go out of whack and unlock the PLL on VHF only. A shot of cleaning spray and a couple of twists of a tuning wand and al is well again.
     
    #5
  6. AudioShockwav

    AudioShockwav Extraterrestrial Admin Staff Member

    Joined:
    Apr 6, 2005
    Messages:
    5,236
    Likes Received:
    908
    Here is another vote for the FT-857, it is a good little do all rig.


    73
    Jeff
     
    #6
  7. FatHam

    FatHam Administrator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Apr 15, 2011
    Messages:
    573
    Likes Received:
    121
    I don't think the MKIIG does DCS which you may need on some repeaters. The Yaesu has it.
     
    #7
  8. Mudfoot

    Mudfoot Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Jun 17, 2009
    Messages:
    7,514
    Likes Received:
    2,194
    You talking DSC or DCS?

    Never mind, I was thinking of something else.
     
    #8
  9. 2RT307

    2RT307 Sr. Member

    Joined:
    Nov 22, 2011
    Messages:
    1,329
    Likes Received:
    257
    Thanks everyone for their input! I do like the big display on the Icom, but figure a new Yaesu with DSP now included is probably the smarter buy. I had not thought about the DCS tones, and that is certainly a major consideration for 2 meter and 440 repeaters. This stuff is pretty new to me, so I really appreciate the advice from you guys that have already done it!

    73,
    RT307
     
    #9
  10. KD4UPL

    KD4UPL Member

    Joined:
    Aug 5, 2012
    Messages:
    51
    Likes Received:
    9
    If you get an all in one rig you're limited to one frequency at a time. That might be fine for you, might not. With a separate dual band radio and an HF rig you can work HF while also monitoring 2m or 70cm. Also, with a dual band radio that includes cross-band repeat capabilities you can have that option if you ever need it. The all in one rigs won't do that. If you ever want to run APRS you would be glad you had the second separate rig.
     
    #10
    1 person likes this.
  11. w9cll

    w9cll W9WDX Amateur Radio Club Member

    Joined:
    Jan 19, 2013
    Messages:
    1,754
    Likes Received:
    623
    Just for information the 706 does have a DSP option, I have it in mine.
     
    #11
  12. 2RT307

    2RT307 Sr. Member

    Joined:
    Nov 22, 2011
    Messages:
    1,329
    Likes Received:
    257
    Just when I think I've got it figured out, you go and throw some logical ideas in there! Great points, and more to think about.

    73,
    RT307
     
    #12
  13. 2RT307

    2RT307 Sr. Member

    Joined:
    Nov 22, 2011
    Messages:
    1,329
    Likes Received:
    257
    Good to know, thanks. Not sure if the receiver is close to being the same, but I have ran a 718 with DSP in the truck. It sure didn't handle the ignition noise well at all. NB was basically useless.

    I still like the large display of the 706 better than the Yaesu. One of the club members has a 857D mounted in his mobile, so I'm going to check that out soon. I guess I could go super geek and run HRD on a laptop in the mobile. :laugh:

    73,
    RT307
     
    #13
  14. w9cll

    w9cll W9WDX Amateur Radio Club Member

    Joined:
    Jan 19, 2013
    Messages:
    1,754
    Likes Received:
    623
    DSP does little for ignition noise, that you need to combat on a different level. Have a look here.
     
    #14
    1 person likes this.
  15. 2RT307

    2RT307 Sr. Member

    Joined:
    Nov 22, 2011
    Messages:
    1,329
    Likes Received:
    257
    Looking further into the club member's setup, he has a Yaesu FT-857D remote mounted, and an Ameritron controller for his Tarheel multi band screwdriver antenna. Shows to run 80-6 meters, and then he has a separate Comet dual band antenna.

    BTW, I passed Tech yesterday. Didn't study for General, took the test anyway, and didn't pass. I really wasn't expecting to, but hoped I might get lucky with the right pool. Now to study for General!

    73,
    RT307
     
    #15

Share This Page