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Love's Travel Stops Fined $25,000!

C W Morse

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After repeated warnings to stop the sale of uncertified transceivers, Love's Travel Stops has been fined $25,000!~
This is likely the forfeiture phase of actions against retailers who previously received warnings but ignored them!

Source: www.fcc.gov Click on "Enforcement"

Before the
Federal Communications Commission
Washington, D.C. 20554

In the Matter of ) File No. EB-05-DL-181
)
Love's Travel Stops and Country ) NAL/Acct. No. 200632500001
Stores, Inc. )
) FRN # 0010520286
Oklahoma City, Oklahoma


NOTICE OF APPARENT LIABILITY FOR FORFEITURE

Released: February
09, 2006

By the District Director, Dallas Office, South Central Region,
Enforcement Bureau:

I. INTRODUCTION

1. In this Notice of Apparent Liability for Forfeiture
(``NAL''), we find Love's Travel Stops and Country Stores, Inc.
(``Loves'') apparently liable for a forfeiture in the amount of
twenty-five thousand dollars ($25,000) for willful and repeated
violations of Section 302(b) of the Communications Act of 1934,
as amended (``Act''),1 and Section 2.803(a)(1) of the
Commission's Rules (``Rules'').2 Specifically, we find Loves
apparently liable for offering for sale radio frequency devices
without the required Commission equipment authorization.

II. BACKGROUND

2. Section 302 of the Act authorizes the Commission to
make reasonable regulations, consistent with the public interest,
governing the interference potential of equipment that emits
radio frequency energy,3 and prohibits, inter alia, the offering
for sale of radio frequency devices to the extent such activity
does not comply with those regulations. The purpose of this
section is to ensure that radio transmitters and other electronic
devices meet certain standards to control interference before
they reach the market.

3. The Commission carries out its responsibilities under
Section 302 in two ways. First, the Commission establishes
technical regulations for transmitters and other equipment to
minimize their potential for causing interference to radio
services. Second, the Commission administers an equipment
authorization program to ensure that equipment reaching the
market complies with the technical requirements.4 The equipment
authorization program requires that equipment be tested either by
the manufacturer or at a private test laboratory to ensure that
it complies with the technical requirements. For a large number
of devices, including Citizens Band (``CB'') radio transmitting
equipment,5 equipment may not be marketed within the United
States unless it has been tested and found to comply with
Commission technical requirements, granted Commission
Certification, and properly labeled.6 ``Marketing'' includes the
sale or lease, offer for sale or lease (including advertising for
sale or lease), importing, shipping, and/or distribution for the
purpose of selling or leasing or offering for sale or lease.7

4. Unlike CB radio transmitting equipment, radio
transmitting equipment that transmits solely on Amateur Radio
Service (``ARS'') frequencies is not subject to equipment
authorization requirements prior to manufacture or marketing.
However, some radio transmitters that transmit in a portion of
the 10-meter band of the ARS (28.000 to 29.700 MHz) are equipped
with rotary, toggle, or pushbutton switches mounted externally on
the unit, which allow operation in the CB bands after completion
of minor and trivial internal modifications to the equipment. To
address these radios, the Commission adopted changes to the CB
type acceptance requirements by defining a ``CB Transmitter'' as
``a transmitter that operates or is intended to operate at a
station authorized in the CB.''8

5. Despite these changes to the definition of a CB
transmitter, Commission enforcement agents continued to encounter
non-certified CB transmitters marketed as ARS transmitters. On
May 13, 1996, the Commission's Office of Engineering and
Technology (``OET'') released a Public Notice ``to clarify the
Commission's Rules regarding equipment that is intended to
operate in various radio services in the high frequency radio
spectrum, including `10-Meter' Amateur Radio Service (ARS)
equipment.''9 The Notice stated that transmitters intended for
operation on non-amateur frequencies must be approved prior to
manufacture, importation or marketing. The Notice specifically
included ARS transceivers designed ``such that they can easily be
modified by the users to extend the operating frequency range
into the frequency bands'' of the CB and other non-amateur radio
services among those devices subject to equipment authorization
procedures. The Notice also stated that the Commission considers
these transceivers as intended to be operated on frequencies
where the use of type accepted equipment is required ``because of
the simplicity of modifying them to extend their operating
frequency range.''10 The Commission's Office of General Counsel
(``OGC'') later released a letter on the importation and
marketing of ARS transmitters, which clarified that such
transmitters that ``have a built-in capability to operate on CB
frequencies and can easily be altered to activate that
capability, such as by moving or removing a jumper plug or
cutting a single wire'' fall within the definition of ``CB
transmitter'' under Section 95.603(c) of the Rules and therefore
require certification prior to marketing or importation.11

6. On October 15, 2001, and November 13, 2002, Enforcement
Bureau field agents visited two Loves retail outlets in
Weatherford and Anna, Texas. At these locations, the stores
displayed and offered for sale various models of non-certified CB
transceivers marketed as ARS transmitters, including Galaxy
models DX33MHL and DX99V. OET specifically tested Galaxy models
DX33HML and DX99V in 2000 and found both models to be non-
certified CB transceivers. As a result of these inspections, the
Dallas Office of the Enforcement Bureau (``Dallas Office'')
issued two Citations directly to Loves' corporate headquarters in
Oklahoma City, Oklahoma on November 26, 2001 and November 15,
2002. The 2001 Citation specifically cited Loves for offering
for sale non-certified CB transmitters, Galaxy models DX33HML and
DX99V, while the 2002 Citation cited the Galaxy model DX99V as
the non-Certified CB transmitter offered for sale by Loves.
These Citations advised Loves of observed violations of the
Commission's equipment authorization and marketing rules,
specifically, marketing non-certified CB transceivers in
violation of Section 302(b) of the Act and Section 2.803(a)(1) of
the Rules. The Citations warned Loves that future violations may
subject Loves to substantial civil monetary forfeitures for each
such violation or each day of a continuing violation,12 seizure
of equipment through in rem forfeiture action, and criminal
sanctions including fines and imprisonment.13

7. In response to the 2001 and 2002 Citations, Loves'
Director of Risk Management at Loves' corporate headquarters in
Oklahoma City, Oklahoma stated that the specific locations listed
in the Citations would stop selling the named devices.14 In
addition to the response from Loves' corporate headquarters, the
Dallas Office received a letter on December 4, 2002 from Loves'
attorney, which stated ``[w]e dispute all of the legal and
factual contentions set forth in the citation and ask you to
treat this letter as a formal response to the citation.''15

8. On February 2, 2004 and January 28, 2005, the
Commission received complaints that Loves was marketing non-
certified CB transceivers. From March 2004 through January 2005,
Enforcement Bureau field agents visited 10 Loves retail outlets
at the following locations: Anna, Texas; Oklahoma City,
Oklahoma; Calumet, Oklahoma; Ranger, Texas; Buckeye, Arizona;
Casa Grande, Arizona; Gila Bend, Arizona; Quartzsite, Arizona;
and Coachella, California. At these locations, the stores
displayed and offered for sale various models of non-certified CB
transceivers marketed as ARS transmitters, including Galaxy
models DX33MHL and DX99V. OET specifically tested Galaxy models
DX33HML and DX99V in 2000 and 2004 and found both models to be
non-certified CB transceivers during all tests.

9. On January 12, 2005, based on inspections conducted on
January 5, 2005, the Los Angeles Office of the Enforcement Bureau
(``Los Angeles Office'') issued five Citations directly to Loves'
retail outlets in Buckeye, Arizona; Gila Bend, Arizona;
Quartzsite, Arizona; Coachella, California; and Casa Grande,
Arizona. All five of the 2005 Citations specifically cited Loves
for offering for sale non-certified CB transmitters, Galaxy
models DX33HML and DX99V. Each of these Citations advised Loves
of observed violations of the Commission's equipment
authorization and marketing rules, specifically, marketing non-
certified CB transceivers in violation of Section 302(b) of the
Act and Section 2.803(a)(1) of the Rules. The Citations warned
Loves that future violations may subject Loves to substantial
civil monetary forfeitures for each such violation or each day of
a continuing violation,16 seizure of equipment through in rem
forfeiture action, and criminal sanctions including fines and
imprisonment.17

10. On February 3, 2005, the Los Angeles Office received a
response to the five 2005 Citations from Love's Director of Risk
Management dated January 26, 2005, which stated ``immediately
upon my receipt of your letter, we immediately discontinued the
sale of this merchandise at each of the respective locations.''18
Additionally, the Los Angeles Office received a response from
Loves' attorney also dated January 26, 2005, stating ``. . . all
the radios in question are marketed as Amateur radios, a fact
conceded in the citation. As sold, the radios operate only on
the Amateur bands. As such, the radios are governed by Part 97
of 47 C.F.R., not Part 95. Part 97 does not require type
acceptance of Amateur radios.''19 On February 28, 2005, the Los
Angeles Office responded to Loves' attorney informing him that
his assertions were incorrect and that selling non-certified
Amateur radios that can be easily modified to operate on CB
frequencies violates the Rules.20

11. On February 23 and 25, 2005, Enforcement Bureau field
agents made two visits to Loves retail stores in Oklahoma where
Loves offered for sale non-certified CB transceivers, Galaxy
models DX33HML and DX99V.21 As noted above, OET had already
tested these specific models and determined them all to be dual
use Amateur Radio and CB transmitters. Each of the models could
be modified to allow transmit capabilities on CB frequencies.

III. DISCUSSION

12. Section 302(b) of the Act provides that no person shall
manufacture, import, sell, offer for sale, or ship devices or
home electronic equipment and systems, or use devices, which fail
to comply with regulations promulgated pursuant to this section.
Section 2.803(a)(1) of the Rules provides that:

(a) Except as provided elsewhere in this section,
no person shall sell or lease, or offer for sale
or lease (including advertising for sale or
lease), or import, ship, or distribute for the
purpose of selling or leasing or offering for sale
or lease, any radio frequency device unless: (1)
n the case of a device subject to
certification, such device has been authorized by
the Commission in accordance with the rules in
this chapter and is properly identified and
labeled as required by § 2.925 and other relevant
sections in this chapter[.]

13. Section 95.603(c) of the Rules requires that ``[e]ach
CB transmitter (a transmitter that operates or is intended to
operate at a station authorized in the CB) must be
certificated.'' Section 95.655(a) of the Rules states that
``[n]o transmitter will be certificated for use in the CB service
if it is equipped with a frequency capability not [authorized for
CB in Part 95 of the Rules].'' This section also states that
``([CB t]ransmitters with frequency capability for the Amateur
Radio Services ... will not be certificated.)'' Additionally,
Section 95.655(c) of the Rules prohibits any internal or external
add-on device that functions to extend the transmitting frequency
capability of a CB transmitter beyond its original capability.

14. From March 2004 to January 2005, Commission agents
observed Loves offer for sale at ten different retail outlets
various models of non-certified CB transmitters, including Galaxy
models DX33HML and DX99V, which had all been tested and
determined by OET to be non-certified CB transmitters. Although
they were labeled as ``amateur radios,'' the specified models of
Galaxy transmitters are CB transmitters, because each was
designed to be easily modified by the end user to allow operation
on CB frequencies. Commission Field Offices issued a total of
seven Citations to Loves' corporate headquarters and its retail
outlets warning Loves that future violations would subject Loves
to penalties including civil monetary forfeitures. On February
23 and 25, 2005, Loves offered for sale at two of its retail
outlets non-certified CB transmitters, Galaxy models DX33HML and
DX99V.

15. Based on the evidence before us, we find that in three
instances22 -- two on February 23, 2005, and one on February 25,
2005 -- Loves offered for sale non-certified CB transmitters in
apparent willful23 and repeated24 violation of Section 302(b) of
the Act and Section 2.803(a)(1) of the Rules.25

16. Section 503(b) of the Act,26 authorizes the Commission
to assess a forfeiture for each willful or repeated violation of
the Act or of any rule, regulation, or order issued by the
Commission under the Act. In exercising such authority, we are
to take into account ``the nature, circumstances, extent, and
gravity of the violation and, with respect to the violator, the
degree of culpability, any history of prior offenses, ability to
pay, and such other matters as justice may require.''27

17. Pursuant to The Commission's Forfeiture Policy
Statement and Amendment of Section 1.80 of the Rules to
Incorporate the Forfeiture Guidelines (``Forfeiture Policy
Statement'')28 and Section 1.80 of the Rules,29 the base
forfeiture amount for marketing unauthorized equipment is $7,000
per violation. Thus, the total base forfeiture amount for all of
Loves' violations is $21,000.

18. We are concerned, however, with the pattern of apparent
violations here. Our equipment authorization rules ensure that
radio transmitters and other electronic equipment comply with
Commission technical requirements. The proliferation of non-
certified CB transmitters may result in interference to certified
CB transmitters and other devices, thereby undermining the
effectiveness of our technical rules. Furthermore, we have
previously stated that ARS equipment that can be easily modified
to extend the operating frequency range into CB frequency bands
are CB transmitters subject to equipment authorization
procedures.30

19. We are particularly troubled that Loves continued to
violate these rules despite receiving numerous warnings from the
Commission. The Commission warned Loves by issuing Citations
directly to Loves' corporate headquarters in 2001 and 2002, and
the Commission issued five additional Citations to Loves' retail
outlets in 2005 after Loves continued to market non-certified CB
transmitters at ten of its retail outlets. These Citations put
Loves on actual notice that marketing of this equipment is
unlawful and that continued violations could make Loves liable
for severe sanctions. Yet, subsequent to these seven Citations,
Loves marketed the very same models of unlawful equipment at
least three times which involved at least two of its retail
outlets. Loves' continuing violations of the equipment
authorization requirements evince a pattern of intentional non-
compliance with and apparent disregard for these rules.
Accordingly, we believe an upward adjustment of the base
forfeiture amount is warranted.31 Applying the Forfeiture Policy
Statement and statutory factors (e.g., nature, extent and gravity
of the violation and the history of prior offenses)32 to the
instant case, we conclude that it is appropriate to adjust upward
the base forfeiture amount of $21,000 and propose a forfeiture of
$25,000 for Loves' apparent violations. Therefore, we find Loves
apparently liable for a forfeiture in the amount of $25,000.

IV. ORDERING CLAUSES

20. Accordingly, IT IS ORDERED that, pursuant to Section
503(b) of the Communications Act of 1934, as amended, and
Sections 0.111, 0.311, 0.314 and 1.80 of the Commission's Rules,
Love's Travel Stops and Country Store, Inc. is hereby NOTIFIED of
this APPARENT LIABILITY FOR A FORFEITURE in the amount of twenty-
five thousand dollars ($25,000) for willfully and repeatedly
violating Section 302(b) of the Act, and Section 2.803(a)(1) of
the Rules.

21. IT IS FURTHER ORDERED that, pursuant to Section 1.80 of
the Rules, within thirty days of the release date of this NAL,
Love's Travel Stops and Country Stores, Inc. SHALL PAY the full
amount of the proposed forfeiture or SHALL FILE a written
statement seeking reduction or cancellation of the proposed
forfeiture.

22. Payment of the forfeiture may be made by check or
similar instrument, payable to the order of the Federal
Communications Commission. The payment must include the
NAL/Acct. No. and FRN No. referenced above. Payment by check or
money order may be mailed to Federal Communications Commission,
P.O. Box 358340, Pittsburgh, PA 15251-8340. Payment by overnight
mail may be sent to Mellon Bank /LB 358340, 500 Ross Street, Room
1540670, Pittsburgh, PA 15251. Payment by wire transfer may be
made to ABA Number 043000261, receiving bank Mellon Bank, and
account number 911-6106. Requests for payment of the full amount
of this Notice of Apparent Liability under an installment plan
should be sent to: Associate Managing Director, Financial
Operations, 445 12th Street, S.W., Room 1A625, Washington, D.C.
20554.33

23. The response if any must be mailed to Federal
Communications Commission, Enforcement Bureau, South Central
Region, Dallas Office, 9330 LBJ Fwy, Suite 1170, Dallas, Texas
75243 and must include the NAL/Acct. No. referenced in the
caption.

24. The Commission will not consider reducing or canceling
a forfeiture in response to a claim of inability to pay unless
the petitioner submits: (1) federal tax returns for the most
recent three-year period; (2) financial statements prepared
according to generally accepted accounting practices; or (3) some
other reliable and objective documentation that accurately
reflects the petitioner's current financial status. Any claim of
inability to pay must specifically identify the basis for the
claim by reference to the financial documentation submitted.

25. IT IS FURTHER ORDERED that a copy of this NAL shall be
sent by regular First Class Mail and by Certified Mail Return
Receipt Requested to: Love's Travel Stops and Country Stores,
Inc., P.O. Box 26210, Oklahoma City, Oklahoma 73126.



FEDERAL COMMUNICATIONS COMMISSION



James D. Wells
District Director
Dallas Office
South Central Region
Enforcement Bureau
ATTACHMENT


1. February 23, 2005, Loves center #213, Tomkawa,
Oklahoma. Non-certified CB transceiver Galaxy models DX33HML
displayed and offered for sale.

2. February 23, 2005, Loves center #213, Tomkawa,
Oklahoma. Non-certified CB transceiver Galaxy models DX99V
displayed and offered for sale.

3. February 25, 2005, Loves center #202, Pauls Valley,
Oklahoma. Non-certified CB transceiver Galaxy models DX33HML
displayed and offered for sale.
 

Love's Travel Stops has NOT been fined, as you claim in your subject header. This is a "Notice of Apparent Liability" only. Love's has the ability to file a response, as is clearly stated in this notice. "Apparent Liability" means that the commission believes that it has adequate cause to fine them, however no such fine is enforceable until heard by a jury in a court of law and therefore they are only "apparently" liable. Love's Travel Stops has the ability to either just pay the proposed fine, or file a response which may ultimately result in a court hearing. It looks to me like Love's has a corporate attorney that is willing to test the FCC's rules and own attorneys as is obvious by their response that they believe they have complied with the rules according to part 97. That seems to have irritated the FCC and they're asking for the fine to be increased. The problem the FCC has with this case is that they allow the sale of every amateur HF transceiver which only requires the removal of a diode or two to transmit on 11m. Every jury comprised of reasonable people will clearly see that there is a conflict in the law when those are allowed, but a radio that requires a jumper moved is not. There is no difference in the complexity involved in modding either of these types of radios to work on 11m. How else can you explain that Copper, H&Y, 1Stop, etc. all continue to sell these radios even after receiving the same notices? I got $20 to anyone willing to take the bet that says Love's never pays a dime and continues to sell these radios. It's so obvious: Over and over again we see that the government only gets the chumps that made it through law school, while the best attorneys are on the free market where they will get paid what they are worth. Free enterprise puts a smile on my face once more :)
 
Mole,
These radios mostly seem to require a jumper moved as you say. What I find interesting is that my Yaesu 757gx is easier than that ! It has a factory built in switch behind the face plate. "click" and bingo 11 meters is enabled ! Tell me that isn't 11 meter inherant design by the manufacturer.
 
This could get real interesting, if Love's lawyers bring up the vague wording in the fcc statements about why these radios are illegal. There is not a radio made that will meet what they say, most Yaesus, Kenwoods, Tentecs, Icoms, etc are easier to mod to 11 meters than most of the radios on the blacklist.


The thing that has allways escaped me is why the manf.s of these Export radios don't go ahead and use a vfo to tune with, then the radios would be just like all the other ham rigs. If it don't have a channel switch it ain't a cb, right :LOL:
 
Retarded truckers? what makes you say that? The average trucker now a days has a sense of business time mamagement,Math skills,map reading and route planing ability,Communication skills most of society lacks,etc.You sure are a one sided pea brain.
Also now that CW has posted more of this anti trucker dribble it still means nothing as the T.A. pilots love's,and several trucking companies are all planning to take the FCC to federal court over their letters I wonder how much money the FCC is willing to spend on this nonsense.?
So CW did you get off on that last posting? Just more cut and past nonsense now over to trucknet to see if he posted the same crap over their.
 
it's not that truckers arent smart enough to figure out how to use a vfo, just that it would be difficult for others using channelized radios to sync with those with vfos, and vice-versa.

twenty seven tripple five oh is the same as what channel?

And then if they did go vfo...think there might be some retaliation resulting in required license verification for retail sales of all transmitting gear?
 
Moleculo said:
Love's Travel Stops has NOT been fined, as you claim in your subject header. This is a "Notice of Apparent Liability" only. Love's has the ability to file a response, as is clearly stated in this notice. "Apparent Liability" means that the commission believes that it has adequate cause to fine them, however no such fine is enforceable until heard by a jury in a court of law and therefore they are only "apparently" liable. Love's Travel Stops has the ability to either just pay the proposed fine, or file a response which may ultimately result in a court hearing. It looks to me like Love's has a corporate attorney that is willing to test the FCC's rules and own attorneys as is obvious by their response that they believe they have complied with the rules according to part 97. That seems to have irritated the FCC and they're asking for the fine to be increased. The problem the FCC has with this case is that they allow the sale of every amateur HF transceiver which only requires the removal of a diode or two to transmit on 11m. Every jury comprised of reasonable people will clearly see that there is a conflict in the law when those are allowed, but a radio that requires a jumper moved is not. There is no difference in the complexity involved in modding either of these types of radios to work on 11m. How else can you explain that Copper, H&Y, 1Stop, etc. all continue to sell these radios even after receiving the same notices? I got $20 to anyone willing to take the bet that says Love's never pays a dime and continues to sell these radios. It's so obvious: Over and over again we see that the government only gets the chumps that made it through law school, while the best attorneys are on the free market where they will get paid what they are worth. Free enterprise puts a smile on my face once more :)

I can tell you why. Because these "export" radios are SPECIFICALLY prohibited by NAME to be sold in the USA and it is codified in FCC's regulations. In fact, they stiffened up these regulations to preclude them from sale a couple of years ago. Therefore, there is nothing ambiguous in the regulations. These *&^%$ things are nothing more than ways to circumvent the law. Electronics-savvy people KNOW that "10 Meter" radios don't require "channel" markers and "band" switches to cover O N E band of frequencies. Just the opposite! :evil: The makers of these things KNOW that "bands" of 'extra' channels appeals to the unruly CBer, and all you gotta do is say, "it puts out 75 'bird' watts with them super-duper 'pills'!?" :x Ker-ching!$$ Where do you FIND "channels"? They are part and parcel of land mobile radio.
CB radios are a CONSUMER product that requires NO particular skill, no knowledge to use just like a waffle iron or a VCR. When the wanna-be "hobbiests" start trying to find 'extra' channels and mo' powah, it creates trouble. That's why they don't WANT "export" radios on the market, and I would point out that if the users had not stuck their unwanted noses where they don't belong (without license), we wouldn't even be discussing this now. But Neeeeeeeee-uuuuoooooooooooooooo!
They just had to have something that belongs to others with their extra this, mo' that.

So, um, you're saying that Riley is a "chump"? I am sure he'd love to be called that in person. I'm glad I've got SOMEBODY that is willing to go to bat for the hams. I can assure you he is NO "chump".

As to the previous dealers that continue to sell these blasted pieces of sh$$, just stay tuned. There is a path which FCC follows to the assessment of fines. They are not as stupid as *some* might think! There IS a method to it. And one of those "chumps" has assured me this crap is NOT OVER!~ There are more in store, trust me! :twisted: And I hope they win every one of them! Including against Cobra and *others* often represented on this forum. If it has "bands" of "channels", it-is-illegal, it is on a list of dis-approved tranceivers, and that is all there is to it. I have no doubt FCC will win if tested. There ARE people within the agency that ARE willing to stand up for what is right.

And these trials are heard in an ADMINSTRATIVE LAW court, not in a CIVIL court. A civil "jury" has nothing to do with it.

CWM
 
C2 said:
<snip>

And then if they did go vfo...think there might be some retaliation resulting in required license verification for retail sales of all transmitting gear?

Sometimes I think requiring proof of license is the way to go. I wouldn't mind it. Of course, that still wouldn't curb the sale of illegal equipment. Like Prohibition, they will find a way to get what they want. What about 'sunsetting' CB? Like setting a date about 5 years hence after which no more new CB sets would be permitted and no more use of 27 MHZ allowed.

Naw. Won't work. Bad enough there's bandits on HF as is. That would just make it worse. They'd show up on 15 Meters. :evil:

Now with the new DOT/FCC regulation that is in the works, THAT might have a chance at stopping the filching of ham frequencies. It is a simple and direct way of going after the 'export' radios.


CWM
 
WHAT NEW D.O.T. RULE ??????

Easy how we cast that big "Wish List"...this poor "horse" has been rode so hard and come back to life it is even starting to scare the "Undertakers" away ;) ;) :roll: :roll: :roll:

With all the "New technology" out in "cyberspace" and beyond..do you really think the BIG F.C.C has time to deal with one on one truck inspections.......And as for D.O.T.,I wish they had enough enforcement out here just to get the "junk" running away with my profit off the road never mind the folks with CDL's in 7 different states......

Searching for one "DAM lousy" export radio will not make a family member come back to life because of someone overworked,overbooked or even worse ....under qualified to drive period....runs them over............

To all members ,I do apologize BUT THIS TRUCKER BASHING CRYBABY WANT MY AIRSPACE CRAP IS JUST THAT..........FLUSH IT LIKE THE REST OF THE SHI7 AND LETS MOVE ON....

Cw,you should be more worried about getting injured in a Cheney hunting party,than if 100+ truckers have "extreeee" channels.....




Snoope just pulled out the maxi brake....waiting for a Model T with a HAM Stick to drive by :p 8) ;)
 
Oh, I think they will have to pay the fine.

A) They lied to the FCC: "We promise to stop selling these radios." Did they? Nope. Plus, in making the offer it is not only an admission of guilt, it's a recognition that the FCC is the controlling authority.

B) They went with their own interpretation of FCC rules: "We think these are ham transceivers, not CB transceivers." Gee, that took a real smart attorney to tell his client to do exactly opposite of what the FCC says.

Love's really needs to get better legal advice. There's no administrative law judge anywhere who's going to rule in favor of them. It's almost like Love's thinks that the FCC rules and determinations don't apply to them.
 
snoope said:
WHAT NEW D.O.T. RULE ??????

Easy how we cast that big "Wish List"...this poor "horse" has been rode so hard and come back to life it is even starting to scare the "Undertakers" away ;) ;) :roll: :roll: :roll:

With all the "New technology" out in "cyberspace" and beyond..do you really think the BIG F.C.C has time to deal with one on one truck inspections.......And as for D.O.T.,I wish they had enough enforcement out here just to get the "junk" running away with my profit off the road never mind the folks with CDL's in 7 different states......

Searching for one "DAM lousy" export radio will not make a family member come back to life because of someone overworked,overbooked or even worse ....under qualified to drive period....runs them over............

To all members ,I do apologize BUT THIS TRUCKER BASHING CRYBABY WANT MY AIRSPACE CRAP IS JUST THAT..........FLUSH IT LIKE THE REST OF THE SHI7 AND LETS MOVE ON....

Cw,you should be more worried about getting injured in a Cheney hunting party,than if 100+ truckers have "extreeee" channels.....

FCC is working to make a simple change that will make it easier for D.O.T to go after drivers who have these "export" radios installed in their trucks. Somewhere in DOT's regs, it states that drivers and fleet owners must comply with ALL Federal and State equipment and safety regulations. So, in a nutshell, the DOT rule will basically say that, (paraphrase) "you must have ONLY a 40 channel, FCC CERTIFIED 4 watt CB installed in your truck" Operators/drivers licensed in other services will be exempt from such. Or something like that. An "export" radio, an amplifier is ALREADY against FCC regulations, so it means that anyone with such is violating DOT regulations as well as those of FCC. It means that DOT agents--even those of states--will be able to enforce that prohibition. Fines *may*, at least, partially go to the states to pay for this. It may also mean seizure as well.To DOT, it simply will mean that it has nothing to do with a radio per se, but it is an EQUIPMENT violation-something that is in the truck that is not supposed to be. Same as if you had a radar detector sitting on the dash. Or, in some states, a scanner.

Now. Before we get huffy, consider that it has ALWAYS been illegal to sell or use these things WRT CB radio. So it really changes nothing except for the fact that radios *can* and/or will be inspected same way as brakes or how far your dolly is set back, etc. It is a simple and logical step. They banned radar detectors on ALL commercial trucks some years back. Sure, a few people still get caught and fined for them I suppose---unless, of course it might jeopardize one's CDL. I don't know about that. Too, the only thing CB operators have been permitted has always been outlined in Part 95, Title 47, US Code. Nothing new there. Yes, it is their fault, mostly, that FCC turned a blind eye to the shenanigans on CB. However, people, not just *me*, have complained mightily about it and it has forced them to DO something about it. While you haven't heard anything official about it (yet), you can certainly consider that folks have been putting "bugs" in FCC's ear for a number of years.

Where did I hear about it? From one of those guys that *some* consider to be FCC 'chumps"! :D Direct! Over the phone! Why is it taking so long? Because they are working out the details! Because they don't want it to be a flawed regulation./ Supposed to be put into effect sometime this year.
All *I* can do is hope it happens. I DO know that that are SOME FCC folks that are VERY sympathetic to the hams' complaints about the theft of frequencies. And they are doing whatever they can within their alloted budget to stop it. Sure, you can yell and criticize *me*--logical simply because *I* am here on the forum and a convenient target. But there are LOTS of people that are simply more than just annoyed about and tired of the slimy shenanigans employed by the outlaws: "WE is the right ones cuz we challenge them rules". We's gonna sell them reddios and we's gonna tawk on them channels an' cain't nobody stop us because we is just so "spay-shul" and important! :evil: No matter HOW you cut it, the majority of problems of rule violations in any radio service comes from CB radio and gets the least amount of attention. Even in the ham community of around 600,000, you may get 4 or so actual procedural violations (not technical ones such as off-frequency due to equipment, or unintentional interference) out of ALL those. IF CB radio were as strictly regulated as it one was (and SHOULD be now, IMHO), it would pale in comparison with the numbers of people who regularly use CB as a 'hobby' and break the rules on a regular basis! There's just no denying it. The police don't intentionally break their rules, the hams have a few renegades (what would be the ratio of 600,000 and 4 citations a month be?) Why should CB radio be allowed to cause grief to other operators? But it DOES more than ANY OTHER service!! :shock: :evil: Folks are just durned tired of it, that's all!

SO! When we trim off all the bulls----, stop arguing about what *I* want because *I* am so "spay-shul" and deserve (NOT) to violate others' privileges and space, the facts are STILL:

1. you may under the law, operate a 4 watt, 40 channel, FCC certified CB radio which you may NOT tamper with or fiddle with inside. Period.

2. you may under the law use the most efficient antenna possible so long as it is no more than 20 feet above an existing structure.

3. you may NOT add 'extra' channels.

4. there is no such thing as a 'freeband'.

5. you may not add an amplifier.

6. you are not to DELIBERATELY talk over 155 miles with your CB radio. IF a station contacts you and you realize that he is beyond that distance, you must sign with him or not answer him at all. The feeble excuse that, "Waal, I cain't h'ep it that there's skip, so I kin talk on 'hit if I wanna".

So that means that, yes, WRT trucks, they certainly can rule that you MUST have ONLY a 40 channel, 'APPROVED' CB radio in your commercial truck and that, yes, they WILL enforce that rule with inspections ('specially if there's an incentive like......$$$$$$$$$ :D )

It is to happen................................soon.

Not soon enough for those who have to have bandits on their
frequencies. I hope it is a matter of "he who laughs last, laughs best!! :p

73



Snoope just pulled out the maxi brake....waiting for a Model T with a HAM Stick to drive by :p 8) ;)

OH! BTW. I don't have a Model T--will a Model A do? It has no
antennas on it, tho! :p
 

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