your more right then wrong in your way of thinking there Steve :glare: they are what they are , especially the 2 driving 4 :thumbdown: Do they work ? Yes , are they clean ? No , are they over kill ? Yes , again , with what you already learned , what might be the DK and pep from any given radio into a 2 x 4 ? I've seen many an X-force type amp in for repair with those configurations :thumbdown: 2 x 2290s driving 4 x 2879s , How in the hell could you safely drive something like that cleanly or safely enough to not over drive it ? I read somewhere , that anything under a 3/4 watt DK from radio in AM and then the audio from the radio would then suffer , (not saying it wouldn't work) just that the audio would suffer. The old amp section of this Forum (that they decided to leave out) used to have some pretty good threads on this issue and explained it fairly well.