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Discussion in 'CB Antennas' started by ctvanover, Oct 18, 2011.

  1. ctvanover

    ctvanover Active Member

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    I have the MFJ-259b antenna analyzer that I use to check and set my swr with. So, if I have a 1.1 or an 1.2 on my meter and the R & the X shows a high number, how do I get the R and the X down to where they need to be?


     
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  2. binrat

    binrat W9WDX Amateur Radio Club Member

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    I got 1 last year as well and had the same question. I downloaded the manual and had a good read. look here MFJ Enterprises Inc.
     
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  3. Marconi

    Marconi Supporting Member

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    Hey ctvanover, if you put your 259b in the feed line at the same exact point as your inline meter, how does the SWR compare on the two meters?

    Make sure you check at the same frequency, use the same power, and that the jumper used with the inline meter is as short as possible, or if possible add the jumper length to the feed line using a barrel connector...when checking with the analyzer.
     
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    Beetle Well-Known Member

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    Don't think the 259B or any other analyzer can crank out more than a few milliwatts. I agree with checking at the same frequency and with the same arrangement of feedline.
     
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  5. W5LZ

    W5LZ Crotchety Old Bastard

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    The amount of power used to check SWR isn't going to matter, SWR doesn't change with power. The accuracy of the meter you use to check that SWR can, and does change with the power level. A good idea is to use the least amount of power necessary for that meter to read anything (for several reasons). Remember SWR is a -ratio-. That ratio between forward and reverse power won't change with the amount of power used.

    That instruction manual is a necessity, and so is reading and understanding it! The root of the whole thing is understanding that impedance (Z) is a combination of both resistance(R) and reactance (X), or, Z = R + X. An SWR meter only reads 'Z', it can't tell you anything about 'R' or 'X', just the combination of those two things. The 'catch' to that is that there's an infinite number of 'R's and 'X's that can in combination can equal any particular SWR reading. The higher that 'X' is, the worse the antenna will behave because reactance 'X' doesn't contribute to radiating anything. It's what causes power to be reflected. Another 'catch' is that a typical antenna will almost never have an input resistance 'R' that will be the 50 ohms that's normally desired. It may be 'close', which will certainly work, but don't expect it to be 50 ohms exactly. (One reason why an SWR of 1.5:1 is considered acceptable!)

    The biggest problem with all this is that the importance of SWR has been blown way out of reason. It is NOT the 'end all' of tuning antennas. It's only a very inexact indication of things.
    - 'Doc
     
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