hello everyone i as wondering i have a 350HDV and i have been thinking about this deal i have been hearing about putting a 1 farad or 2 farad capacitor inline with the power. And me and a friend was thinking i could really get that amp to put out some power but is this true? i know it will put the power in reserve and boost voltage but i don't want to hook it up and blow my amp but im wondering if i can up my wattage by doing this without OVERDRIVING the amp and possibly hurting it.... BTW i only hit the amp with 3/4 of watt now... Thanks
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Texas Star 350HDV
- Thread starter PickupMan
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They are referring to "volting" the amp. That means giving the amp higher voltage to increase the output. If you did this to your Texas Star it would go up in smoke.
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BOOTY MONSTER
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if i recall correctly........... putting 15 volts dc or more to any texas star amp is asking for trouble . if you want more power get a bigger amp or possibly a huge amp and use the 350 as a kicker .
the truth is even doubling your power will only add 1/2 an S-unit to your recieved tx .
check this out........
be for-warned.....i got too much spare time today .
.........so im thinking about how it takes increasing power 4 times to put 1 extra s-unit on a recieving units s-meter . so i thought id see/show how fast the watts add up and how expensive it gets beyond a certian point for just one more lil s-unit . i know....i know.....i need to get a life
1 watt dead key swinging 4 watts = baseline of 0 s-units for my purpose here .
4 watts swinging 16 watts = +1 s-unit . (most radios will do this ammount or more)
16 watts swinging 64 watts = +1 additional s-unit . (some radios will do this ammount . some may need small $40-$50 amp)
64 watts swinging 256 watts = another +1 s-unit . (amp cost $150-$200)
256 watts swinging 1024 watts adds yet another s-unit . but we are only 3 s-units above what a typical radio will do . (amp cost 2x4C =$400 . 6x2879B = $550 . TS 1600ab $650 .
1024 watts swinging 4096 watts is the last s-unit for my purposes here . cost = 16x2879 FB $1300 + 4 pill driver $325 + 400 amp maul $800 = $2425 . i dont think mauls includes batteries so add them and the necessary power cabels and distribution blocks and you easily break $3000 oops......dont forget the alternator upgrade and if you dont do ALL the work yourself add the cost of someone doing it for you . $3500 minium . CHA-CHING CHA-CHING !!!!!!!
(p.s. id feel more comfortable getting 4K out of a 24 pill ($1900) than a 16 pill )
most here already know that linear amps are not linear in the effect they have on signal transmission . doubling or even quadropling your power certianly does not double your range of transmission . there is a sweet spot that is fairly economical in cost for the watts/effect given . it seems to me the little 2 pill is by far the king as far as biggest effect for your dollar . 250-300 real watts and i dont know of any vehicles that cant handle that extra 25-30 amp draw on its system . i also think 4 pills are pretty cost effective also for their price if you have a larger alternator to start with .
if you have a 2 pill now and want to get the same effect upgrading to a bigger amp as you did going from a barefoot radio it cost $3500 PLU$$$$$ . i dont know about the rest of you folks but i think that sucks and is way too expensive . but , it is what it is........
i know most here knew what i know now a long time ago so none of this is new . just thought i throw it out there as im sure other have deeper pockets than me and therefor different opinions .
some good info here . http://cbradiomagazine.com/March 2007/Power in Perspective.htm
the truth is even doubling your power will only add 1/2 an S-unit to your recieved tx .
check this out........
be for-warned.....i got too much spare time today .
.........so im thinking about how it takes increasing power 4 times to put 1 extra s-unit on a recieving units s-meter . so i thought id see/show how fast the watts add up and how expensive it gets beyond a certian point for just one more lil s-unit . i know....i know.....i need to get a life
1 watt dead key swinging 4 watts = baseline of 0 s-units for my purpose here .
4 watts swinging 16 watts = +1 s-unit . (most radios will do this ammount or more)
16 watts swinging 64 watts = +1 additional s-unit . (some radios will do this ammount . some may need small $40-$50 amp)
64 watts swinging 256 watts = another +1 s-unit . (amp cost $150-$200)
256 watts swinging 1024 watts adds yet another s-unit . but we are only 3 s-units above what a typical radio will do . (amp cost 2x4C =$400 . 6x2879B = $550 . TS 1600ab $650 .
1024 watts swinging 4096 watts is the last s-unit for my purposes here . cost = 16x2879 FB $1300 + 4 pill driver $325 + 400 amp maul $800 = $2425 . i dont think mauls includes batteries so add them and the necessary power cabels and distribution blocks and you easily break $3000 oops......dont forget the alternator upgrade and if you dont do ALL the work yourself add the cost of someone doing it for you . $3500 minium . CHA-CHING CHA-CHING !!!!!!!
(p.s. id feel more comfortable getting 4K out of a 24 pill ($1900) than a 16 pill )
most here already know that linear amps are not linear in the effect they have on signal transmission . doubling or even quadropling your power certianly does not double your range of transmission . there is a sweet spot that is fairly economical in cost for the watts/effect given . it seems to me the little 2 pill is by far the king as far as biggest effect for your dollar . 250-300 real watts and i dont know of any vehicles that cant handle that extra 25-30 amp draw on its system . i also think 4 pills are pretty cost effective also for their price if you have a larger alternator to start with .
if you have a 2 pill now and want to get the same effect upgrading to a bigger amp as you did going from a barefoot radio it cost $3500 PLU$$$$$ . i dont know about the rest of you folks but i think that sucks and is way too expensive . but , it is what it is........
i know most here knew what i know now a long time ago so none of this is new . just thought i throw it out there as im sure other have deeper pockets than me and therefor different opinions .
some good info here . http://cbradiomagazine.com/March 2007/Power in Perspective.htm
That's a good AB amp the way it is . Would last you a life time if run correctly. LEAVE IT ALONE !! 1 to 2 watts in. 20 to 30 watts pep from there should be OK , better yet , 4 to 1 ratio from your DK from given radio.
Texas Star's are good well made amps as is. Why F with them ? Peace
Jegs is right on the money though. Putting anything higher than 14.6 into it is asking for a smokeball. I run 14.2 into it and no more. I use a 350 hdv for some sideband here and there. It works great at 375, and I see no reason to push it harder for the minimal gain it would provide.
B
BOOTY MONSTER
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if i recall correctly (really asking for trouble !! lol ) vehicles operate @ 14.4 volts when the engine is running .
Most newer vehicles run at or around 14.2-14.7. Even at 14.7 when you key the mic there will be a slight drop off in voltage. The general rule I have always heard is 15 volts max for Texas Star or you will smell smoke. I like the idea of staying well under.
How may amps does the TS350 draw?? 25-30 amps, that is wired directly to battery.
Thanks,Ed
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