Is Icom 761 ALC compatable with Ameritron AL-82

KO0M said:

A-L-C

Automatic Level Control

"We don't need no stinkin' ALC", real operators use MLC

Manual Level Control

All the ALC is going to do is try to cut your radio back at a certain level; keep an eye on your audio and your wattmeter. Ask for signal reports when you are on the air to make sure you are not over-driving the amp.

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REALLY??? ALC is to prevent you from over driving the amp. On voice peaks it is hard to tell by looking at a meter. AlC will prevent splatter if adjusted properly. Far too many people run 100 watts barrfoot and then turn the amp on and still drive it with 100 eatts when often all they need is 60-80 watts. The rest just causes crap. ALc will automatically reduce the drive to no more than is necessary and no less than enough when properly set.

KO0M said:

Yes REALLY, did I seem to stutter?



Um, is your definition of Automatic Level Control different than mine? Maybe you should call it "Automatic LID Controller"



*You* need to get a better watt meter, maybe start with a Bird 43P and go from there. If it is that critical to you, then, maybe you should observe your signal on an O-Scope.



Maybe *You* "Captain Kilowatt [sic]" can advise him how to Properly adjust his ALC.



Let me help you with that statement; "Far too many LIDS and Appliance Operators run 100 watts bare-footed [sic] and then turn the amp on and still drive it with 100 watts when often all they need is 60-80 watts. Hint: Only one knob on the radio can influence STUPID, it's not the ALC, it's the POWER On / Off Switch.



Perhaps, the "Crap" is on the receiving station's end because of poor image rejection in his radio's design.



Appliance operators put their faith in "Automatic Controls", that "work" if "Properly adjusted or set."



Instead of parsing my answer, you might address the OP's original question: "The Icom 761 manual says the ALC voltage must be in the range of 0 ~ -3v while the AL-82 manual says output is between 0-20 volt negative.
Are they compatible"?

REALLY!

Because of the ambigious and conflicting specification, I advised him not to be concerned and to Monitor and Manually Control His Own Signal and not to sweat the small things; the amplifier can be operated without being connected an ALC source of a radio that he is unsure of.

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Your answer was not specific to the question at hand but rather broad sweeping so as to include any and all amplifiers and associated ALC.

BTW not sure what your problem is with me but you don't have to be an ass when responding to my posts. For some reason you like to edit out my username Captain Kilowatt and substitute my OLD screen name of QRN which has not been used for years. I asked you not to do it before and now I am telling you to grow up and stop acting like a little brat when someone says something that you disagree with.The last time you did it you just said it was a way of saying how long you have been around here. I don't give a shit how long you have been here and neither does anybody else. As for chastising me for not answering the OP's question directly I see you did not answer it either. You simply said not to use it. You did NOT state if the gear was compatible as he asked. Oh, and forgive me for the couple spelling errors that you pointed out in order to make yourself feel better. Posting from a phone with small buttons, tiny text, and big fingers will do that to those of us that are less than perfect. But then again I suppose you wouldn't understand what that was like. I stand by what I said about using ALC.

Your statement above "Perhaps, the "Crap" is on the receiving station's end because of poor image rejection in his radio's design." proves you do not know as much as you would like to think you know as image rejection has NOTHING to do with eliminating crap from an over driven amplifier. IMD and image frequency rejection are two COMPLETELY different things. Also a Bird 43p or any other peak watt meter is still not capable of indicating fast enough to see instantaneous peaks that over drive an amp.


Now I am sure that I really have given you a reason to have a problem with me now but i don't give a shit. You show arrogance every time you respond to a post of mine so here it is right back at ya. Any complaints take it up with another admin.

Come On Paws, cut the crap.
First of all, stop quoting if you are going to change the quotes.
Second, ALC is there for a reason, you know that, you just got a hard-on for C/K for some reason....let it go.
YOU did not answer the question as well.
What C/K did say was that ALC is to prevent you from overdriving the amp. AlC will prevent splatter if adjusted properly.
Are you saying that is not correct?