You are right Robb: I'm not disappointed! This "minimal immediate knowledge'', as you arbitrarily wish to call it, was sufficient to get me the tech license. It was definitely not the same test I took in 1986. My previous assertions are based on the meetings that I've attended, silent monitoring, observations and talking with other newcomers to the hobby. It is always the same people that volunteer but never show up at the activities. It is the çlick of old farts that won't share a frequency or allow newcomers in a conversation. It is an overall stinking attitude that permeates these meetings and QSO's: same conversations about their illnesses, their wive's infidelities, the downfall of the USA, the immigrants, etc. As much as I want the hobby to survive, it is difficult to lure a friend under these prospects. Notwithstanding your inability to adjust to the different perspective that I've proposed regarding the future of this hobby, it is obvious by your mere participation in this forum and the detailed commentaries you provide, that you are one of the few true ham operators left. Live long and prosper!