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CB Channel 6 Bleedover

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Feb 2, 2014
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If this isn't the proper place for this delete it or move please. But do any of you folks have problems with bleed over from this guy on channel 6 that's out in California? I'm about sick of it. We talk local on channel 14 here in Arkansas. This guy is on channel 6 bleeding over on us big time. He has to be running 10k or more. You can here him all the way up to 16 and almost here him on every channel flipping the dial. Something needs done with this guy.
 

Listen closely its not just one guy. It's several of them at different times and they just sound like one guy. It sounds exactly like it did 25 years ago just different players in a different decade. 20 years from now the same question you just asked will be asked again. Just turn up the juice and jump in there with em and start calling them muffled up mud ducks.
 
What rig are you talking on while your 959 is going off for warranty service?

I got a old Cobra 29 WX NW with Sound Tracker that my uncle let me borrow. All thats wrong with it is that a couple of the back ground lights are burned out. It works awesome. He said he would sell it to me for $50 which is what he has in it. He got it off eBay real cheap and fixed whatever was wrong with it.
 
Listen closely its not just one guy. It's several of them at different times and they just sound like one guy. It sounds exactly like it did 25 years ago just different players in a different decade. 20 years from now the same question you just asked will be asked again. Just turn up the juice and jump in there with em and start calling them muffled up mud ducks.

Yea your right its not just one guy and it goes all all day nearly. But sometimes worse than other. I mean I just thought it was bad with this handheld cobra HH28 I got with a pull out antenna. Now I got this new A-99 up in the air set up as a base in my pc room holey cow can I hear them constantly during the daytime mostly.
 
It happens all the time on probably most frequencies. It sounds like the guy you are talking about is no doubt running big power , as they all do on the bowl. However I was on 10 meter Ham yesterday , and there was a guy who probably didn't even know that he was bleeding over on frequencies 5 down and five up. It happens everywhere.
 
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You have to make sure your radio is properly aligned on frequency or would a unlocked clarifier help in addition with that filter. There's am operator up the road from me that has some kind of radio that he has to tune another operator in but if there's more than one guy that's trying to talk to him he can only tune into one at a time. That's narrow. This filter looks very narrow frequency wise. Correct me if I'm wrong. I'm still learning.
 
again a properly tuned radio should be capable of some adjacent channel rejection
while some guys will hack a radio up and wont have any front end overload and then the whole radio is worthless and you can listen to all 40 channels on just one channel

so before you go and call the fcc to complain
better make sure you dont have a power mic or a tuned up radio or amp for that matter
then we can all start throwing rocks at each other
 
As a Ham there is a lot about this that never gets understood or explained.
If you will try to understand, I will attempt to make some sense of it.
Your typical CB receiver performance:
1. Your receive is very broad banded, has very little selectivity to reject close by signals known a bleed over. Splatter and bleed over are not the same thing. Harmonics are different yet.
2 It has poor IMD response within the receiver. Often mistaken for bleed over
3. There is, in most cases, one filter in the intermediate stage.
4. Noise blanker operation can create IMD within the radio on top of all the rest.
Bottom line is a CB receiver has very little selectivity to begin with because it has it cover 40 channel frequencies without much attenuation. This is the low cost you pay for with these low performance radios.
In common terms it called being broad as a Barn Door.
This is a strike against you for interference rejection..
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Transmitter operation:
1. Over power operation generates signals too high in level and broad band widths for a CB receiver to handle..
2. If the transmitter is overdriven at any power level it generates inter modulation distortion products you hear as splatter over a wide frequency range.
Refer back to above. Your receiver cannot separate it out when it's on so wide a frequency spread. The best receivers cannot reject anything in it's band pass because it's RF signal the same as any desired signal but just happens to be undesirable..
3. Add to this, power mikes driving the radio into distortion which is also passed onto an amplifier so makes IMD totals worse yet.
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These are the basics of what you have to put up with when anyone abuses equipment and rules.
A. The radios were limited to a legal 5 watts.
B. No mods.
C. No amplifiers.
D. Channels with 10 kc spacing within 40 channels.
E. Antenna limits.
All for a reason.
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With all this being said, you should begin to understand why there are problems with people who violate the rules by the results you hear.
The FCC formulated the rules knowing what the results would be if left open to interpretation and unchecked.
Add to this un-enforcement and you have the recipe for discontent you hear and feel.
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Amateur radio license for that service is an agreement by the holder with the FCC to abide by the Part 97 rules set forth for that service. Not everyone does but most do to a high degree.
I might add that Ham radio is the only radio hobby besides the military to allow continuously variable frequency control within their allowed band limits.
There are people in any hobby involving others, that will try to get away with anything just because they can and always look for attention by doing so..
It often falls under the heading of ignorance and/or some deficiency in the way they want to relate to others in a disrespectful manner.
Those who break the rules and show no respect make others pay for it.
I hope this perspective has some value.
Thanks for reading.
Good luck.
 
Bottom line is a CB receiver has very little selectivity to begin with because it has it cover 40 channel frequencies without much attenuation. This is the low cost you pay for with these low performance radios.
In common terms it called being broad as a Barn Door.
This is a strike against you for interference rejection..
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I have to disagree with that statement.You say a CB has poor selectivity because it has to cover 40 channels, about 450khz, with little attenuation. What does receiver coverage have to do with selectivity? My amateur radio has to cover 1.7MHz on 10m and has great selectivity. My general coverage receiver covers 100KHz to 30 MHz with bandpass filters that are several MHz wide. It's not the coverage of the receiver that determines selectivity it is the width of the IF filter that determines selectivity.Most CB's seem to have an IF bandwidth around 6 to 8KHz or so it seems. Some are quite good at adjacent channel rejection while others are not. It all depends on the width of the IF filter as well as the filter skirt shape snd whether it had steep skirts (good) or long sloping skirts (bad).
 
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