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Battery on floor

kj6coolone

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The teacher said never place a battery on the floor.
This is do to the water moisture layer about 12" high.
The moisture layer changes all time of day.
 

Ask your teacher if the same holds true if the battery is sitting on the 2nd or 3rd floor (or the 66th floor for that matter).

We were always told not to sit a battery on a concrete floor ... to put a wooden block underneath it, so the cold didn't penetrate it.
 
We just talking about a garage floor only where the moisture can get around the door.
The problem he is died. He was 70's and old navy back in the 80's.
The only time I seen water moisture on 3rd floor above is when fire sprinkler(Black nasty smell water) have went off.
All battery I have seen it had wood or was in a rack.
It look neat and clean when on wood.
 
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my personal theory is ....

... one day an old man took a junk battery outta something
and set it on the garage floor for a month.

when we went back and grabbed it to put it into something
it would not work.

Didnt have squat to do with the battery on the floor...

... but his logic deduced if you place car battery on ground it goes dead.


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Actually I have had several batteries go bad and were unrecoverable after sitting on either ground or a concrete floor for a few months. in a couple cases they were in a heated generator room on the concrete floor and were brand new. When the power went out and the generator failed to start it was found out the battery was shot and would not take a charge. This happened three times at work at various sites and after installing a wood box for them with a rubber mat the batteries lasted for years after. It happened a couple times at home too between myself and my father. I still can't figure out why but I have seen it happen at least a half dozen times and as soon as the battery was raised even a couple inches off the floor/ground they always lasted for years after.
 
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I think it has to do with wild temperature swings from the concrete floor from morning through mid-day to night. The concrete transfers that temperature swing very well to the battery.
 
I have seen that article from Snopes before however I still have seen a half dozen or more batteries, some only a few months old, die and actually in a couple cases undergo polarity reversal and never take a charge again. Any battery left on the wooden work bench or on a rubber mat over a piece of wood lasted years. I refuse to believe it was a coincidence in all cases that the dead batteries just happened to be bad and were the ones placed on the concrete floor or ground. I have also learned over the years to not put as much faith in Snopes as I used too after I found out a little more about the way in which they seem to find their info. It seems the husband and wife team have no investigative skills or practices at all and the source of their info when debunking a lot of stories is never revealed.
 
With the temperature and moisture mentioned as more reasonable cause, the concrete floor still has mysteries to it that aren't validated by either.

The batteries in my motorcycles last all "winter" with temp fluctuations and moisture. It can be 80% humidity from 4AM until noon, then drop to 10% on any given day here as well. They just store nicely in the bikes. They go dead in 3 years either trickle charged or not, but that seems quite common with these small lead-acid batteries.

Now take them out, place them on the concrete floor in the same environment, and they're dead within a month. So how about this theory: The battery is more grounded placed directly on the cement floor and the air/atmosphere is seen as slightly positive; a closed circuit of sorts. A very small trickle of energy is pulled from the battery and drains it where in a vehicle or on an insulated shelf it remains an open circuit. I just never had an issue with storing batteries as long as they aren't directly on the ground.

Switching to Lithium Polymer batteries like . Smaller, lighter, and shouldn't fail as often. Just can't let them go discharged or they never recover. I missed the prior conversation, but if it's over a project, would these styles be a better fit?
 
Does it hurt my car battery if I set it on concrete?
No, the type of plastic (polypropylene) used in battery cases today is a great electrical insulator, therefore cement causes no electrical discharge effect to the battery.

How do I maintain my battery?

Note: Interstate’s automotive and commercial starting and Marine/RV batteries are considered Maintenance-Free products under normal operating conditions. However, in the event of an extreme overheat/overcharge situation, the batteries may need to be checked for water loss.


We recommend the following:

1. How to check the water level and add water:

If your battery has removable vent caps then they can be pried off with a flat-head screwdriver. Once removed, you will see individual vent wells. Look down into each individual cell to make sure that the water is covering the lead plates and is at the proper level. Add water to any cells that are low on water. Always use distilled water that is available from a supermarket to fill the battery in order to prevent chemicals from contaminating the battery.

2. How to determine the proper water level:

Ideally, the water level should be no higher than just below or to the bottom of the tubes (in a 12-volt battery there are 6 tubes) that go down into the battery. To avoid damage to the battery, make sure the fluid level never drops below the tops of the lead plates in each of the cells. Also, avoid adding too much water, which may result in acid overflow and damage around the battery.

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NOTE: Battery terminals should be cleaned periodically with a mixture of baking soda and water and wire brush if necessary. The terminals should be rinsed with clean water and then can be coated with a commercially available sealant or high temperature grease.


READ MORE FACTS HERE
 
Does not add to the conversation. My bike's battery is dead once again after riding here and dead on the bike.

Charged it up and it lasts a day. Some batteries are just Shit. I'm a geek as well and could rant on APC UPS all week.
 
The newer motorcycle connect the battery to regulator. So the regulator can drain battery.
This is mine thoery from reading service manual for mine atv.
It don't have ignition coil.
With this charging system ,if the battery is old you will not get the max spark.
All battery have a date. If it over 4 year I will get rid of it.
http://imgs.inkfrog.com/pix/econoSt...Master_Disconnect_Cut_Off_Switch_Le_35461.jpg
 
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