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73's or just 73?

Discussion in 'General Ham Radio Discussion' started by Singularity35, Apr 12, 2014.

  1. The Bruce

    The Bruce W9WDX Amateur Radio Club Member

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    Technically, yes. But, since you were on phone, what was wrong with simply saying "best wishes" or "catch ya later?" I can understand using numbered abbreviations on when tapping out Morse, but phone?


     

  2. Captain Kilowatt

    Captain Kilowatt Professional Amateur
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    And why should they in these cases? If your neighbor smoked and you don't would it not be common courtesy for him to NOT smoke in your house? Same idea. Leave the bad habits at home. There are "perfectionist curmudgeons" in amateur radio but they are the minority. There are also CBers with ham tickets and they are also the minority however as time goes on they are increasing in numbers and that is not an issue as long as they do not turn the amateur radio bands into another 11m. As with anything, when you join a group you become one of the group. You do not join a group and expect everyone else to change to your ways. Leave the dirty Dave Made amps, the 10-4 rodger Dee's, and the D-104's on 2m over deviated radios out of the bands.

    You always seem to disagree with me especially when it comes to this issue. CB is fine and I have no problem with that however it IS different than amateur radio. It should stay that way. If you were a ham and seen what the bands are becoming you would agree as well. Unless you are one of the Dave Made type of hams that is.


    Looks like we are headed for yet another CB versus ham thread again. :bdh:
     
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  3. Singularity35

    Singularity35 DU7DVE

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    Seems like this is not as simple as I thought it was....
     
  4. wavrider

    wavrider W9WDX Amateur Radio Club Member

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    Listen, listen, then listen some more.

    That is when understanding of good operating practices will be heard, then learned.

    Friend of mine, General class is a CB nut. Nothing wrong with that at all. EXCEPT he does tend to bring the CB lingo to the ham bands and is very quickly corrected.

    There is a place for everything, and everything in it's place.
     
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  5. 2RT307

    2RT307 Sr. Member

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    Not according to QRZ when I looked them up. It's really not that important, but as I stated, seems a little ironic to me. I watch my p's and q's on the ham bands, and as Hutch mentioned... if you can understand it fine, then what does it really matter? I can still think it's ironic and funny, though. :laugh:

    If I were the OP, I'd save that pic of Hiram's QSL card. Hard to argue with that.

    73,
    Brett
     
  6. 2RT307

    2RT307 Sr. Member

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    I actually listen a lot more than I talk. I especially like 40 meters during the day... lots of ragchewing, which I enjoy listening to. I actually listened to a couple of guys one time where one was a former Heathkit engineer, and the other fella used to work for Drake. That was cool.

    73,
    Brett
     
  7. 2RT307

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    This is a forum, Rich. forum: a place, meeting, or medium where ideas and views on a particular issue can be exchanged.

    Never in my life have I ever heard that this phrase came from Ham radio. Doing a simple Google search gives a ton of sites that relate the phrase "what's your handle" to have originated from CB. Nothing from the ARRL, absolutely no historical references to what you are saying. Rather than being condescending, could you possibly explain where a reference to this history is?

    73,
    Brett
     
  8. unit_399

    unit_399 EL CAPO

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    YOUR HOUSE ?? If he has his ham ticket, isn't it his house as much as it is yours?? You have said many times that you were a CBer before you were an amateur, and I imagine it took you a while to adjust to the amateur way of doing things. So why can't you cut these new hams some slack instead of always making snide remarks about their Dave Made amps, over-deviated 2m radios, etc?
    -399
     
  9. hookedon6

    hookedon6 W9WDX Amateur Radio Club Member

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    The term handle is an old slang term for name that goes back to the cowboys of the Old West. ​

    Telegraphers picked it up and the ham radio operators got it from them. ​

    CB operators copied the hams.
    For Hams it can be either the operators first name
    or a nickname such as Sparks or Rusty. ​

    CB'ers often use an alias such as "Dirty Dawg" .



    BTW, as long as we are playing trivia,... where does the designator "RG" as in RG-8 coax, come from?
    no fair using the internet, just your brain only

    next question,.... where does the "8" in RG-8, come from?​
     
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  10. n8fgb

    n8fgb Well-Known Member

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    Way back in the early days, it took some effort to key the transmitter.Ops fabricated extensions handles to make it easier to operate. These became a thing of pride to have. Ops would engrave there names in them. So when an op would ask another his name, it would be what is your handle?
    Rich
     
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  11. 2RT307

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    Now that makes sense. Thanks for explaining it. Honestly, I have never heard that, and even my Elmer never told me that when I was first licensed as a Novice in the 70's. Let it expire and just recently made Tech.

    73,
    Brett
     
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  12. Captain Kilowatt

    Captain Kilowatt Professional Amateur
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    I'm not talking about 73's or using Q-codes on the air. Hell I do that myself hence my reference that only curmudgeons will correct you for it. I was talking about 10-4 good buddy and using crappy class C amps (Dave Made) as well as those that wire power mikes up to their 2m radios IOW carrying their CB mentality of all knobs to the right over to amateur radio. THOSE are the ones I am talking about. Leave it on 11m after all when you join a sports team do you play by the rules or make a new set and expect everyone else to change to your way?
     
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  13. unit_399

    unit_399 EL CAPO

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    From : What is the worldwide radio forum all about.

    This is NOT the place to publicly pass judgment on other radio operators practices or skills.
     
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  14. hookedon6

    hookedon6 W9WDX Amateur Radio Club Member

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    err,............. didn't you just do that with your post?;)
     
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  15. Captain Kilowatt

    Captain Kilowatt Professional Amateur
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    From: My own fingers on my keyboard.

    I am not passing judgement on other's practices or skills. They can do WHATEVER they want on the appropriate band in question. If they want to run class C CB amps etc. it's fine with me but do it on CB and keep them off the ham bands. They do NOT meet spectral purity requirements. As for the use of 10 codes etc. again keep it on CB. Tbeu have never been nor are they presently used on ham. As for the power miked 2m radios have you ever heard one? Horrible sounding and most deviate so far outside a repeaters passband that the repeater will keep dropping out on voice peaks.Again it's all good if it is kept off the ham bands. Do want you want on 11m. Everyone else has.

    Because I am involved in this discussion I will not stoop so low as to lock it and run but I have a feeling from watching who is looking at what here that a lock may not be too far away. They usually do at about this stage of these discussions. :pop:
     
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