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N4GG array

Discussion in 'Amateur Radio Antennas' started by wavrider, Mar 23, 2012.

  1. wavrider

    wavrider W9WDX Amateur Radio Club Member

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    I have built and used an N4GG array for 11 meters just to see how it would do. It worked rather well but that was a few years ago when the cycle was not so good.

    I built and put another one up today for 17 meters.

    Got a contact with Gerry in Ireland and had a chance to compare it to the Mosley PRO 67B yagi at 55'.

    The N4GG array is at 45' with one of the lobes shooting into EU land.



    Gerry said the N5GG was 5DBD less than the yagi. Not even an S unit of difference.

    The PRO67B has three active elements on 17 meters.

    The N4GG was almost identical to the yagi on receive signal strength, yet the noise floor was around 2 S units less than the yagi.

    This wire is nice to have on the antenna farm and works as the article states.

    http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~jaking/n4gg_array.pdf

    In another thread m42duster was explaining how he only used wires for antennas, I remembered about the N4GG array and decided to compare it to the yagi. I was impressed, thanks for the inspiration m42duster.
     
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  2. Wire Weasel

    Wire Weasel Senior Moment

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    Okay this looks interesting. It apparently works and would be easy and cheap to make.


    Not to pick nits....but doesn't the term "array" refer to multiple elements?

    I would not call this antenna an array
     
  3. Mudfoot

    Mudfoot Elmer

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    It does have multiple radiating elements.
    I use a curtain for 6 and it works fine.

    I suppose half square describes it better.
     
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  4. Captain Kilowatt

    Captain Kilowatt Professional Amateur
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    I don't have as much a problem with that as I do N4GG putting his name to it. It is a simple three half waves antenna that has been around for almost forever. In fact the G5RV is a basic three 1/2 waves antenna on it's initial design freq of 20m. The only thing N4GG did was to drop the ends down to save room.

    Not knocking the antenna in general BTW, it should work a bit better than a regular dipole.
     
  5. binrat

    binrat WDX Club Coordinator
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    This maybe a foolish question. Can it be strung higher off the ground? Say for a 10 metres, having the 1/4w ends with the bottom tips about 25' in the air.
     
  6. Captain Kilowatt

    Captain Kilowatt Professional Amateur
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    Sure, hang it as high as you want and you do not have to drop the 1/4 wave end section if you do not want too.
     
  7. wavrider

    wavrider W9WDX Amateur Radio Club Member

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    I have tried the 3/2 dipole horizontal and it works also rather well but it is horizontal polarization.

    I may be mistaken and often am but with the 1/4 wl vertical ends it gives vertical polarization, the lower angle of take off than a dipole installed lower then 1/2 wl in height.

    Either way it does shoot a clover leaf pattern off the ends of the wire.

    With two of these installed the globe can be covered if the antennas are oriented in the right direction.

    It does not outperform a yagi but it is pretty darn good for an in expensive antenna, and what surprised me is it is QUIET for vertical polarized.

    Thanks again m42duster for renewing my interest in wire antennas, I run a fan for 20/40/and 80 but usually use the yagi for 20 meters, since 17 is one of my favorite bands i decided to make one for it, I may go ahead and make a fan type of dipole out of it for 10/12/17 just to see how it works out.
     
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  8. wavrider

    wavrider W9WDX Amateur Radio Club Member

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    For those who want to experiment with this as a multi band phased vertical array I found some more info in the following link.

    W7HTJ Amateur Radio Station

    Have to read the text but the formulas are given for the multi band phased array and results from the author.

    Have fun and good DX
     
  9. RickC.

    RickC. Hopeless antenna junkie

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    Ah, great! I've talked to Gerry many times on 20 and a couple on 17. Great operator, nice guy.


    Rick
     
  10. wavrider

    wavrider W9WDX Amateur Radio Club Member

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    Yes Gerry is great contact, and what a memory, he evened remembered last years contact when I was running the Swan700CX on 20 meters, that Quad antenna he uses sures lumps a BIG signal across the pond.
     

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