Thanks gary. like most ticket holders wheather they'll admit it or not (and most won't ) can't resist the erage to pop up on 11 meters. IT shocks me how many I hear from 27.366-27.695 lsb/usb.. I'm not sure why. Maybe when conditions are scarce on the amateur bands but whatever the reason there there in droves
.it's to there advantage keeping it on the DL. It's not like there on there 40 channel 4 watt cobra's. On the contrary there often not only using there general coverage tx/rx hf's at 100 watts but using that 100 watts to drive there nicely built 500-1500 watt "amature amplifiers. Everyone knows this is not only a breach of a ham operators code (something like the old Ivey league hand shake) but totally against the law. I'd guess out of all the 11 meter stations I hear on any given day 25% of those operates are ticket holders another 70% are chicken banders like myself who are "freedanding" with a minimum of 200 watts the other 5% are newbies who haven't gotten around to knowing if thay want to be heard and enjoy making contacts there gonna have to up there game. Which they inevitably do. Some ticket holders don't even hide the fact there licensed and often freely give out there operating conditions. There's obviously a reson this is happening and since I don't moneriting ham bands i dont know what drives so many ticket holders to do this but i enjoy AM local rag chew and "may" resort to using an hf on 11 before I get my ticket and most likely after. I was just hopeing to get a ham transceiver that will allow me to switch between ssb and AM. It's much easier the going back and forth between radio's. I don't even do it with my tube plate modulated radios much. Unless there's no skip and I'm exclusivly gonna be qsoing with locals who don't operate ssb. I stopped at your post and will read on. Thanks again Gary. It's people like yourself who've been a tremendous help. Happy DX'ING.
operating on 11 also. This is my main reson for hopefully finding an hf that will sound nice on AM. I would often switch from my madison on ssb to a plate modulated cb but switching back and forth three or four times in an hour has become a bother. So now I just switch the mode selector on my Madison. I've found that although my sonar or Robyn sounds much nicer on AM than the madison the Madison accually sound exstramly nice on AM and rarely switch radios any more and this is the reson I want an hf that can be switched from ssb to AM and sound good. Otherwise im gonna spend $2000+ on an hf and a real amp as I'm not gonna use an 11 meter amp in line with a yaesu icom or whichever rig I finally wind up with. It actually seems like most 11 meter ssb operaters who aren't ticket holders are using hf's anyway. QUOTE="BJ radionut, post: 519250, member: 7026"]Well, not to burst the bubble before you start but in the US a Tech. class has only one location I know of where you may operate Ancient Modulation and that is 6 meters on 50.400. and activity is almost non-existent.
The Tech class is Not allowed to operate AM mode on 10m only SSB and CW.
The General and Extra class has a few more options.
However 99.9% of all Amateur Radio "Voice" operations Worldwide on HF use SSB.
There are a few specific locations (frequencies) where AM is operated on HF, but the space for accepted operation is limited, and is frowned on anywhere else.
The AM vs. SSB war was fought and lost on HF over 50 yrs ago, and SSB won.
Sorry but that's the facts!
The most avid AM operators will tell you, that it's a losing proposition to try and operate outside of those specific "windows" where AM operation is considered acceptable.
All the Best
Gary[/QUOTE]
.it's to there advantage keeping it on the DL. It's not like there on there 40 channel 4 watt cobra's. On the contrary there often not only using there general coverage tx/rx hf's at 100 watts but using that 100 watts to drive there nicely built 500-1500 watt "amature amplifiers. Everyone knows this is not only a breach of a ham operators code (something like the old Ivey league hand shake) but totally against the law. I'd guess out of all the 11 meter stations I hear on any given day 25% of those operates are ticket holders another 70% are chicken banders like myself who are "freedanding" with a minimum of 200 watts the other 5% are newbies who haven't gotten around to knowing if thay want to be heard and enjoy making contacts there gonna have to up there game. Which they inevitably do. Some ticket holders don't even hide the fact there licensed and often freely give out there operating conditions. There's obviously a reson this is happening and since I don't moneriting ham bands i dont know what drives so many ticket holders to do this but i enjoy AM local rag chew and "may" resort to using an hf on 11 before I get my ticket and most likely after. I was just hopeing to get a ham transceiver that will allow me to switch between ssb and AM. It's much easier the going back and forth between radio's. I don't even do it with my tube plate modulated radios much. Unless there's no skip and I'm exclusivly gonna be qsoing with locals who don't operate ssb. I stopped at your post and will read on. Thanks again Gary. It's people like yourself who've been a tremendous help. Happy DX'ING.
operating on 11 also. This is my main reson for hopefully finding an hf that will sound nice on AM. I would often switch from my madison on ssb to a plate modulated cb but switching back and forth three or four times in an hour has become a bother. So now I just switch the mode selector on my Madison. I've found that although my sonar or Robyn sounds much nicer on AM than the madison the Madison accually sound exstramly nice on AM and rarely switch radios any more and this is the reson I want an hf that can be switched from ssb to AM and sound good. Otherwise im gonna spend $2000+ on an hf and a real amp as I'm not gonna use an 11 meter amp in line with a yaesu icom or whichever rig I finally wind up with. It actually seems like most 11 meter ssb operaters who aren't ticket holders are using hf's anyway. QUOTE="BJ radionut, post: 519250, member: 7026"]Well, not to burst the bubble before you start but in the US a Tech. class has only one location I know of where you may operate Ancient Modulation and that is 6 meters on 50.400. and activity is almost non-existent.
The Tech class is Not allowed to operate AM mode on 10m only SSB and CW.
The General and Extra class has a few more options.
However 99.9% of all Amateur Radio "Voice" operations Worldwide on HF use SSB.
There are a few specific locations (frequencies) where AM is operated on HF, but the space for accepted operation is limited, and is frowned on anywhere else.
The AM vs. SSB war was fought and lost on HF over 50 yrs ago, and SSB won.
Sorry but that's the facts!
The most avid AM operators will tell you, that it's a losing proposition to try and operate outside of those specific "windows" where AM operation is considered acceptable.
All the Best
Gary[/QUOTE]
