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VX-8R Odd Split, Different PL

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Hi Folks,

Just got the 8R & have been playing.

One of our repeaters has an odd split, plus a different TX/RX
PL.

I went through the Independent Storage, changing the PL for each.

The RX works ok, and the TX puts out on the right frequency, but
the PL is the same as the RX.

Just to test, I saved the TX freq to the next available memory channel,
and the desired PL works.

Did I miss something in the manual?

My VX-5 worked OK doing this.

Thanks,

Tim W5FN
 

I don't think you missed anything; this seems to be the way the VX-8 works. I tried doing what you described using the RT Systems software and there isn't a way to do that either. One thing you could do is use both VFO's for that repeater - use one VFO to TX and the other to RX.

That certainly is an odd repeater. Is that the local super-secret private repeater? :)
 
Hi Moleculo,

Thanks for trying it with the PC programming package - I was
hoping it could have been done that way.

Since my VX-5 could do it, I figured the Yaesu programmers in their
infinite wisdom would have continued the tradition. Oh well!

Repeater wise, Yeah, there's always one in every crowd that has to
be different!!

For grins, do you know if the VX-6 could do the split PLs? I haven't
ever used one.

There's one thing that I'd really like to see - and haven't seen any
on any ham portables.

A button that while scanning memories would temporarily take out
a channel out of the scan list. e.g. You have 5 frequencies in your
scan list, and while scannning, all is quiet. Then, somebody starts
chatting on one of them. You (or xyl) gets tired of listening, so you
press this button, and that frequency is taken out of the scan list until
you either re-start the scan, or turn off/on the radio.

Anyway,

Thanks for checking this one out!

Tim W5FN
 
Hi Moleculo,

Well, I reprogrammed the memory with no PL on rx & the desired PL
on TX. At least I'm now able to key up the repeater properly.

Now I just have to deal with the other stuff on the frequency!

Did send an e-mail to Yaesu asking about it. Don't figure much
will come of it tho.

Thanks again,

Tim
 
I had a VX-6 years ago, but I have long since sold it, and don't remember if it could do what you're describing.

However, I was thinking some more about this and thought of something: Are you using the TSQL function to key the repeater? If so, just change the Squelch Type to TONE instead and put in the TX tone to key the repeater. This will make the radio RX all traffic on the output receiver, regardless of the tone. I can't see why this wouldn't work for you.


here's one thing that I'd really like to see - and haven't seen any
on any ham portables.

A button that while scanning memories would temporarily take out
a channel out of the scan list. e.g. You have 5 frequencies in your
scan list, and while scannning, all is quiet. Then, somebody starts
chatting on one of them. You (or xyl) gets tired of listening, so you
press this button, and that frequency is taken out of the scan list until
you either re-start the scan, or turn off/on the radio.
Click to expand...

For this, check page 65 of the manual. It shows you how to skip a memory during a memory scan. Basically, when the scan lands on the one you want to skip, just hold down the menu button to get into set mode, then rotate the dial to menu 55: Memory Skip. Once you go into that memory, you can select "skip".
 
Hi Guys,

Just got an e-mail back from the tech support guys at Yaesu, and
he said to use Set Mode 94 - Split PL coding.


duh! Too many set modes!!

Thought I'd let you all know in case you come across a wierd
repeater.

cu

Tim W5FN
 
I looked at that menu option, but it doesn't let you select two CTCSS tones. The options are:

1. DCS encode only
2. TONE-DCS - TX a CTCSS tone and RX a DCS cod
3. D CD-TONE SQL - TX a DCS and RX ad CTCSS.

Were you able to figure out how to make it TX/RX two different CTCSS tones?
 
Hi Moleculo,

After I sent that (thinking that it really made sense),
I tried to do what he said, and alas, it did not work.

I have re-sent him an e-mail asking for further directions,
but at this time, it certainly looks like a bug in the
firmware (from a user's perspective).

Having said that, (and in fairness to the guys who wrote
the code), it may have been a conscious decision to not
allow this to be done. (but then why offer the other odd
modes)?

I'll post further info as I get it.

I know that there aren't too many folks that use this,
but since the VX-5 did it with no problem, I was hoping!

Thanks again,


Tim W5FN
 
Hey Moleculo,

When you get a free moment, could you program your VX8
with the following in a spare memory?

RX 145.205 PL 141.3
TX 147.265 PL 186.2

Do it the 'manual' way (not with the software).

Be sure to turn Menu 94 'On'.

While transmitting, listen on a different RX set to 147.265 PL 186.2 & see if
it works. If not, change the PL to 141.3.

The Yaesu guy seems to think my radio has a problem. I just
wanted to get a 2nd opinion!

Thanks,

Tim W5FN
 
The Yaesu guy doesn't know what he's talking about or hasn't tried it. I did exactly as you requested and set a second radio to do a tone scan while I was transmitting on the VX8. The tone that is being transmitted is the first one, which is 141.3 in this case. I set menu 94 and also tried a few different settings on menu 95...this radio does not work like you're wanting it to.
 
Hi Moleculo,

That's what I figured.

When I asked him if he had tried it personally with a radio, etc,
his reply was "I understand, but the only way we can address the problem is to see the radio."

Since you have duplicated what I explained to him, it at least gives me
more ammunition that says it doesn't work like he thinks/has been told, etc.

Thanks again!!

Tim W5FN
 
I'm fairly new to all this and still struggling to understand quite a bit, but I was browsing these Forums and saw this thread.

I have a VX-8R and there's a local repeater with different PL codes for rx/tx and also the different rx/tx frequencies have a non-standard split.

There's a page in the manual with a section on how to program for this. I did it and have had no troubles.

If I remember, I'll check tonight for the page number of the manual.

But if I remember correctly, you program in your receive frequency and PL as you normally would, then assigning to a memory spot.

Then, you separately program in your transmit frequency and PL. You assign it to the same memory spot as the other, but while you do so, you also hold in the PTT button.

I hope I'm not misunderstanding the issue and that this helps.
 
Yeah, that's what I did too. I'll try it again and report back...maybe it's just the way I did it the first couple of times.
 
I tried it again with the same results. It always TX the tone that I have set on the RX frequency.
 

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