Well messed around with stuff some more. I was trying the wilson on the roof of my truck and the MM9 behind the cab. Best I could get with the MM9 was 1.8-2.2 (2.2 on 40) behind the cab this time. This was just raising and lowering the whip a smidge, without cutting anything yet.
The wilson 1000 mag mount was 1.3 on channel 1 and 1.1 on 40. On 80 it was even better on channel 120 was about 1.6 I think, higher channels than 120 kept getting higher which is normal. The high 29 Mgz end was in the red, which I would expect but I never transmit on those freqs anyway. Channels below 1 didn't take long for the swrs' to start going south quick, which makes sense. Upper 24 Mgz whoo who. Damn needle almost went to the CAL mark LOL, not good but I don't talk on those freqs either.
When I got home I threw the wilson up on the gutter again. This time my readings were exactlly the same as on the roof of my truck 1.1-1.3 (1.3 on 40). I don't know how that worked out. I guess an apartment gutter is a decent ground?? I checked the SWR's with a walkie talkie since I haven't bought a power supply yet but I'm guessing the SWR's should be about the same with the mobile radio.
I wish I had a mag mount base mount so I could have tried my MM9 on the roof. Would love to find out what I can get the SWR's down to on the roof.
20 years ago I use to run a 102" and spring on the roof of my truck. It Got out amazing with a SSB Galaxy and Sadelta echo/power mic but a 102" on this truck isn't a pool I want to dive into. I wouldn't put a 102" anywhere on my truck. I would have to say from what i remember about the 102" and this wilson, they get out about the same. If there was any difference between them, it wasn't much. Certantly not enough differance to mount such a huge antenna. I still think a 102" works better than anything else but been there done that.
So many options. I will probablly be playing musical antennas for a while and end up with a small collection of bases, mounts and antennas LOL. Oh well that's what hobbies are for.