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Thanks for the input. So the Gain specs they give are calculated differently or are just plain inflated I take it...

I would like a more narrow beamwidth for this antenna, putting it on vertical, will be local and DX, probably honestly more local than DX.

I can't get it more than 30-40 feet high, I am on a hill though, location in my experience is far more important than antenna height... But that's just my experience. Talking about LOCAL talking here, not DX, DX too many variables, I've had just as good of reports during good conditions swapping from 1 antenna at 30 feet to another antenna at 2 feet off the ground...   so not too concerned with DX performance, if the conditions are there, it will work for me regardless of antenna height. Local is another story, to get the 100 mile away stations I need some height, but if I can't go any higher, I will just have to go bigger to help the RX/TX a little. 1/2 S-unit would be major improvement in my book, as some stations don't even move the meter, so would make hearing them much better.

As for the TV Rotator... haha,, I know people laugh, never had a bad experience. I used the same cheap rotator on my 3 element from 1997-2007 when I took it down. That rotator still works fine and is on a 25dB Dish for Wifi now.   Getting a new TV antenana rotator for the new beam, just going to go with the 4 element.... I just can't see myself putting 26' of boom in the air... That's a "retard sized" antenna in my book.

Stacking the 3's, I have thought about it, but if I was going to go that far, I would need a bad ass rotator and a tower to hold it, so not going that route either,... remember my BUDGET. LOL... $400 antenna, rotator and coax... I know I could do better but that's all I am willing to part with right now.

So final conclusion, after talking to some other folks outside of this forum as well, just going to get the 4 element and be happy with that... Got to be better than what I got already, even if only a little, at least it's new, the old 3 element is bent up and raggedy from the years of service it's given, time to donate it to a local that needs a base antenna and let him enjoy it like I did.

Oh, one more thing. Yes, the antenna with rejection ALL the way across the back would be best.

I like the FB seperation / rejection of a beam, but it won't be too bad, I will likely listen in mostly with the IMAX2000 I got coming this week, should be here tomorrow, and then switch over to the beam and point it at the target station as needed.

<blockquote data-quote="443" data-source="post: 231437" data-attributes="member: 15034">Thanks for the input.&nbsp; So the Gain specs they give are calculated differently or are just plain inflated I take it...I would like a more narrow beamwidth for this antenna, putting it on vertical, will be local and DX, probably honestly more local than DX.I can&#039;t get it more than 30-40 feet high, I am on a hill though, location in my experience is far more important than antenna height...&nbsp; But that&#039;s just my experience. Talking about LOCAL talking here, not DX, DX too many variables, I&#039;ve had just as good of reports during good conditions swapping from 1 antenna at 30 feet to another antenna at 2 feet off the ground...&nbsp;&nbsp; so not too concerned with DX performance, if the conditions are there, it will work for me regardless of antenna height.&nbsp; Local is another story, to get the 100 mile away stations I need some height, but if I can&#039;t go any higher, I will just have to go bigger to help the RX/TX a little.&nbsp; 1/2 S-unit would be major improvement in my book, as some stations don&#039;t even move the meter, so would make hearing them much better.As for the TV Rotator... haha,, I know people laugh, never had a bad experience.&nbsp; I used the same cheap rotator on my 3 element from 1997-2007 when I took it down.&nbsp; That rotator still works fine and is on a 25dB Dish for Wifi now.&nbsp;&nbsp; Getting a new TV antenana rotator for the new beam, just going to go with the 4 element....&nbsp; I just can&#039;t see myself putting 26&#039; of boom in the air... That&#039;s a &quot;retard sized&quot; antenna in my book.&nbsp; Stacking the 3&#039;s, I have thought about it, but if I was going to go that far, I would need a bad ass rotator and a tower to hold it, so not going that route either,... remember my BUDGET.&nbsp; LOL...&nbsp; $400 antenna, rotator and coax... I know I could do better but that&#039;s all I am willing to part with right now.&nbsp;&nbsp; So final conclusion, after talking to some other folks outside of this forum as well, just going to get the 4 element and be happy with that...&nbsp; Got to be better than what I got already, even if only a little, at least it&#039;s new, the old 3 element is bent up and raggedy from the years of service it&#039;s given, time to donate it to a local that needs a base antenna and let him enjoy it like I did.Oh, one more thing.&nbsp; Yes, the antenna with rejection ALL the way across the back would be best.I like the FB seperation / rejection of a beam, but it won&#039;t be too bad, I will likely listen in mostly with the IMAX2000 I got coming this week, should be here tomorrow,&nbsp; and then switch over to the beam and point it at the target station as needed.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="443, post: 231437, member: 15034"] Thanks for the input. So the Gain specs they give are calculated differently or are just plain inflated I take it... I would like a more narrow beamwidth for this antenna, putting it on vertical, will be local and DX, probably honestly more local than DX. I can't get it more than 30-40 feet high, I am on a hill though, location in my experience is far more important than antenna height... But that's just my experience. Talking about LOCAL talking here, not DX, DX too many variables, I've had just as good of reports during good conditions swapping from 1 antenna at 30 feet to another antenna at 2 feet off the ground... so not too concerned with DX performance, if the conditions are there, it will work for me regardless of antenna height. Local is another story, to get the 100 mile away stations I need some height, but if I can't go any higher, I will just have to go bigger to help the RX/TX a little. 1/2 S-unit would be major improvement in my book, as some stations don't even move the meter, so would make hearing them much better. As for the TV Rotator... haha,, I know people laugh, never had a bad experience. I used the same cheap rotator on my 3 element from 1997-2007 when I took it down. That rotator still works fine and is on a 25dB Dish for Wifi now. Getting a new TV antenana rotator for the new beam, just going to go with the 4 element.... I just can't see myself putting 26' of boom in the air... That's a "retard sized" antenna in my book. Stacking the 3's, I have thought about it, but if I was going to go that far, I would need a bad ass rotator and a tower to hold it, so not going that route either,... remember my BUDGET. LOL... $400 antenna, rotator and coax... I know I could do better but that's all I am willing to part with right now. So final conclusion, after talking to some other folks outside of this forum as well, just going to get the 4 element and be happy with that... Got to be better than what I got already, even if only a little, at least it's new, the old 3 element is bent up and raggedy from the years of service it's given, time to donate it to a local that needs a base antenna and let him enjoy it like I did. Oh, one more thing. Yes, the antenna with rejection ALL the way across the back would be best. I like the FB seperation / rejection of a beam, but it won't be too bad, I will likely listen in mostly with the IMAX2000 I got coming this week, should be here tomorrow, and then switch over to the beam and point it at the target station as needed. [/QUOTE]

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