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No, I'm comparing the vertical polarization of my 5 element quad to the horizontal polarization of my 5 element quad.

I disagree with your statement that a vertical will have a better DX distance when it might have a different angle than horizontal but when the horizontal angle is the correct angle the vertical may not be.

I'm also not convinced that a vertical approach of the F layer isn't lossy compared to a horizontal approach.

My experience has found horizontal superior, especially for breaking pileups.
Nor am I in agreement regarding ground gain.

I HAVE found it interesting how often I'm heard over pileups on my first call and over the rest, perhaps there are many others operating vertically?

[QUOTE="JAF0, post: 664000, member: 50781"] No, I'm comparing the vertical polarization of my 5 element quad to the horizontal polarization of my 5 element quad. I disagree with your statement that a vertical will have a better DX distance when it might have a different angle than horizontal but when the horizontal angle is the correct angle the vertical may not be. I'm also not convinced that a vertical approach of the F layer isn't lossy compared to a horizontal approach. My experience has found horizontal superior, especially for breaking pileups. Nor am I in agreement regarding ground gain. I HAVE found it interesting how often I'm heard over pileups on my first call and over the rest, perhaps there are many others operating vertically? [/QUOTE]

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