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I'm again reconsidering converting the M104C into a Shooting Star either by adding the vertical elements to the existing boom or by buying one. The total weight and wind load of the horizontal M104C and V5/8 up there now is quite close to that of the Shooting Star so I don't think my rotor will have trouble handling it. Maybe I'll get lucky and find someone wanting to sell either a M104C I can use for parts or an entire Shooting Star. If it turns out to be too expensive, I'll just stick with what I have now. It's not like the bands are exactly alive with action, but part of wanting a stronger vertical signal is due to the lack of propagation. It'd be nice to talk to "locals" that are a fair distance away.

I plan on doing some testing with guy wires at various heights to see exactly what I can do based on the length of the vertical elements, the guy wire connection points on the mast and location of the guy wire bases.

I know it's much less than ideal to have a vertical element near the mast but I think/hope the performance of the 4 element vertical would still beat that of the V5/8 by a considerable margin. I have no evidence to back that up, just my thought. Not very sciencey though.

<blockquote data-quote="TimmyTheTorch" data-source="post: 858069" data-attributes="member: 64271">I&#039;m again reconsidering converting the M104C into a Shooting Star either by adding the vertical elements to the existing boom or by buying one. The total weight and wind load of the horizontal M104C and V5/8 up there now is quite close to that of the Shooting Star so I don&#039;t think my rotor will have trouble handling it. Maybe I&#039;ll get lucky and find someone wanting to sell either a M104C I can use for parts or an entire Shooting Star. If it turns out to be too expensive, I&#039;ll just stick with what I have now. It&#039;s not like the bands are exactly alive with action, but part of wanting a stronger vertical signal is due to the lack of propagation. It&#039;d be nice to talk to &quot;locals&quot; that are a fair distance away.I plan on doing some testing with guy wires at various heights to see exactly what I can do based on the length of the vertical elements, the guy wire connection points on the mast and location of the guy wire bases.I know it&#039;s much less than ideal to have a vertical element near the mast but I think/hope the performance of the 4 element vertical would still beat that of the V5/8 by a considerable margin. I have no evidence to back that up, just my thought. Not very sciencey though.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="TimmyTheTorch, post: 858069, member: 64271"] I'm again reconsidering converting the M104C into a Shooting Star either by adding the vertical elements to the existing boom or by buying one. The total weight and wind load of the horizontal M104C and V5/8 up there now is quite close to that of the Shooting Star so I don't think my rotor will have trouble handling it. Maybe I'll get lucky and find someone wanting to sell either a M104C I can use for parts or an entire Shooting Star. If it turns out to be too expensive, I'll just stick with what I have now. It's not like the bands are exactly alive with action, but part of wanting a stronger vertical signal is due to the lack of propagation. It'd be nice to talk to "locals" that are a fair distance away. I plan on doing some testing with guy wires at various heights to see exactly what I can do based on the length of the vertical elements, the guy wire connection points on the mast and location of the guy wire bases. I know it's much less than ideal to have a vertical element near the mast but I think/hope the performance of the 4 element vertical would still beat that of the V5/8 by a considerable margin. I have no evidence to back that up, just my thought. Not very sciencey though. [/QUOTE]

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