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ok , i re-read this thread from the beginning yesterday and today . there we're several points in the development of this thread where i had ignored cause it got pretty technical , to me anyhow . and no i didn't miraculously understand it all this time , but i did pick up a few things i had missed along the way . BTW , thanks to all the folks that contributed to it , even Mr.S .


shockwave , i saw where you changed your measurements for your version . thank you for the update ;)

so it seems a good starting point is a 30 ft vertical element with 106 inch basket/cone/ground elements . the consumer versions have stuck with a 30 inch diameter ring for the cone top , but bob85 pointed out avanti thought more gain could be had with a larger ring . that was using their original shorter basket elements though so the longer 106 inch elements may? or may-not? already be getting that extra gain ??? ....... or there may still be a little more gain to be had in addition to the longer elements by a larger ring element ???


has anyone had a chance to play with a larger diameter ring using the longer 106 inch elements yet ? if so what are your impressions ?