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Donald I will try and get back to your post soon, but I've basically heard and talked on most of these subjects already, and no matter what I say...you will likely disagree. I know you probably feel about the same of me. This means we have not discussed this to a conclusion that we both can agree on, that's all.


I decided to stop talking in general, but to try and have a conversation with DB about his ideas and his models...after which I was finally able to see what he was doing.


I, for one, have not seen his model where he claims to show the gains he posted early on...when I saw the pattern his model produced compared to a 1/2 wave. When I did, I said "...finally a NEC program was possibly showing the gains that you and Sirio have presented."


DB said that idea was his brain child, but he told us he had discussed the idea with both you and Bob, and that's OK.


However, I finally saw his modified model of his Vector where he added wires, and I was totally surprised as those results...which surprised me.


After he and I fussed and discussed this model a bit, in the last couple of days, DB finally gave me what I needed to understand what he was doing better, and now I see his purpose in that model. I just hope this does not come too late for him to continue with his ideas.


That said, this would not have happened without our talking and getting our ideas clear between us.


I'll get back to your post. You raise some new and interesting points that I don't think we've discussed before. I will have to analyze my model with these points in mind.