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Help debugging Kenwood TM-D710a dropout issue

mmccurdy

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Hoping someone can help me track this down. Over the past couple of days, my new Kenwood TM-D710a saw its first heavy use operating 2m simplex between four vehicles in a caravan.

The issue I'm seeing is that on a fairly regular basis (maybe every 3-4 transmissions) I am getting about one second dropouts in RX audio. The S-meter also goes to zero during this time. Someone will just be talking, then nothing, then the signal and audio will come back about a second later. Highly annoying.

We have been fairly close together, and none of the other folks are reporting any dropouts, so I'm pretty sure it's on my end.

Other things I've been trying to eliminate: It does not appear to be correlated with physical vibration, bumps in the road, etc. It happens fairly consistently from the time I turn the rig on, so I don't think it's a thermal problem, though my cooling fan does sound a little gimpy. Besides, it's mainly an RX problem, which seems less likely to be caused by heat (right?). I believe the power to the unit is clean, though I do have it running through a relay so I can switch it with the ignition. I do not see any other symptoms that would indicate flaky power (display stays fully illuminated, etc.) The other units in the caravan are a Yaesu FTM-350 and two other identical Kenwoods.

I'm not really sure where to start debugging here. I would greatly appreciate any leads anyone here could provide. Thanks a lot in advance!
 

Could be that you have and APRS packet auto transmitting. If the radio transmits (APRS ~ 1 second TX) the RX on both sides turns off until the TX is done.

Reset the radio and see if it still acts up. That would narrow it down to software or hardware problem.
 
Hoping someone can help me track this down. Over the past couple of days, my new Kenwood TM-D710a saw its first heavy use operating 2m simplex between four vehicles in a caravan.

The issue I'm seeing is that on a fairly regular basis (maybe every 3-4 transmissions) I am getting about one second dropouts in RX audio. The S-meter also goes to zero during this time. Someone will just be talking, then nothing, then the signal and audio will come back about a second later. Highly annoying.

We have been fairly close together, and none of the other folks are reporting any dropouts, so I'm pretty sure it's on my end.

Other things I've been trying to eliminate: It does not appear to be correlated with physical vibration, bumps in the road, etc. It happens fairly consistently from the time I turn the rig on, so I don't think it's a thermal problem, though my cooling fan does sound a little gimpy. Besides, it's mainly an RX problem, which seems less likely to be caused by heat (right?). I believe the power to the unit is clean, though I do have it running through a relay so I can switch it with the ignition. I do not see any other symptoms that would indicate flaky power (display stays fully illuminated, etc.) The other units in the caravan are a Yaesu FTM-350 and two other identical Kenwoods.

I'm not really sure where to start debugging here. I would greatly appreciate any leads anyone here could provide. Thanks a lot in advance!





When the Kenwood transmit a beacon from the A-side, then the B-side is shut down for a short period for obvious reasons.

I have two TM-D710's and they both do it as well as others I have seen.

Hope this helps,

Gerard
VK2JNG
 
When the Kenwood transmit a beacon from the A-side, then the B-side is shut down for a short period for obvious reasons.

I have two TM-D710's and they both do it as well as others I have seen.

Hope this helps,

Gerard
VK2JNG

Yep, this is exactly what's going on. It does make sense in retrospect, just something a little unexpected.

Would be really nice if the smart beaconing feature were just a *little* smarter such that it waited for the radio to be idle before transmitting, but I can live with it I suppose.

Thanks a lot for everyone's help on this.
 

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