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Mobile antenna spacing cb-frs/GMRS

BaggaBones

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First off, this is my first post so I’m not quite sure where this query should really be, moderators may move if needed be.

What would be a round about distance between a cb antenna and a frs/GMRS antenna on a mobile installation to not cause any adverse reactions between the two? It’s not a frequency issue obviously, though an issue that may be something along the lines of making either/or/and too directional.

I have a crew cab (4 door) truck if that helps at all.

Ham may be a possibility in the further future, though frs/GMRS definitely is as of now.

Thanks for y’all’s understanding and looking forward to any thoughts and/or opinions on the subject.
 

GMRS will go further as long as everything is run legally. Gmrs can use 50 watts where CB is 4. GMRS does require a license, it's $75 for 5 years but it's only a form and a payment.
 
First off, this is my first post so I’m not quite sure where this query should really be, moderators may move if needed be.

What would be a round about distance between a cb antenna and a frs/GMRS antenna on a mobile installation to not cause any adverse reactions between the two? It’s not a frequency issue obviously, though an issue that may be something along the lines of making either/or/and too directional.

I have a crew cab (4 door) truck if that helps at all.

Ham may be a possibility in the further future, though frs/GMRS definitely is as of now.

Thanks for y’all’s understanding and looking forward to any thoughts and/or opinions on the subject.

I would personally try to mount them as far apart as possible. For me, I would go with a CB antenna on the roof and mount the UHF antenna on the front fender.
 
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In 2017, the FCC updated the GMRS by allotting additional interstitial channels in the 467 MHz band, increased the license term from 5 to 10 years, allowed transmission of limited data applications such as text messaging and GPS location information and made other updates to the GMRS rules to reflect modern application of the service.
FCC https://www.fcc.gov/general-mobile-radio-service-gmrs

Attitude, I mean altitude wins. First find a "real" GMRS antenna. I mean a REAL antenna. Not some Chineseium coat hanger on a refrigerator magnet pos. Do your homework and get back to us as we love to pick holes in noob purchases. (bunch of dicks around here even if they do mean well)
Place the FRS/GMRS on top of the vehicle. 462/467MHz is more or less nearly line of sight save for the magic that is UHF spill and fill radiation.

27MHz and it's neighboring frequencies. Big crew cab? It seems odd but if possible Hobson's choice is on the driver's side bed rail a couple feet aft of the cab. There is no science to this. It just seems that this is where it goes for a variety of reasons that range from drive through collisions to radiation pattern to political affiliation. (go figure) In any case it seems to be the default.

Of course the best place is the top middle of the cab. Then a 8ft whip is tall enough to to attract low flying aircraft. It hits everything. Then there is the rear bumper mount where the first three feet of the antenna sees itself reflected in the bed of the truck.

The compromised antenna on the hood. Why? Just why would you load up a 40 inch whip and expect it to do anything? Move along , nothing to see here...

The top of the diamond plate tool box in the bed mount. Sure, why not? But I guarantee it will at some point get in the way of a load or something.

Just because you didn't ask. Get some wide , flat , braid with eyelets or hooks on the ends and bond the beegeebuzzs out of the truck. Two on each door, two on the hood, extra from the engine to the frame, more from the frame to body , rear end to frame to body, front suspension to frame to body. There really is not any such thing as over kill here. Unless of course you begin to add significant weight to the truck.

now, in no particular order:
There is no such thing as an effective maggot mount antenna.

Resonance is NOT VSWR. VSWR is NOT resonance. Trim and tune for RESONANCE , you can deal with "most" VSWR issues later.

DC connections for the radio are directly to the battery. Do not pass go, do not use the cigarette lighter socket, do not use light gauge wire, grommet every feed through or there will be tears and smoke.

Despite the propensity for the membership here to deride, demean and generally trash a noob, ask. They will offer unique and usually effective solutions to equally unique problems. The wealth of experience here is such that most of us have done it wrong at least once (if not several times) and aren't shy about telling on ourselves.

Lastly:

Welcome to the asylum. The inmates have the keys.
 
i have been lucky,,, i have a 102 whip in the center of my tool box and my 2 meter 5/8 wave about 18 inches forward mounted on cab above the inside light,,,, they dont bother each other and i run a 2 pill 100 watt amp and the 2 meter is a 25 watt fm rig,,,
 
I think a lot of this discussion has to do with which antenna you want to have the *better* spot. For me that’s be the 11m antenna, and I’d cope with the compromises on the UHF antenna.
 
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As far as spacing is concerned you probably dont want em right next to each other but you dont want em way far apart either. They need medal under them to work effectively. Mag mounts.. permanent mount? You choose.. how serious are you about performance? If it were me I would drop the headliner and get out the drill. Find dead center of roof go back a foot or so and do a so239 or puck permanent mount for cb. Go forward from center about the same and do a nmo mount. This is the standard for vhf/uhf ham/business permanent mount. Lots of choices on antennas out there.. I would have to research GMRS mobile antennas?? Maybe someone on her more versed in those can give a recommendation. Cb do a Sirio Turbo or performer 5000... cant go wrong. Lots of other good advice givin earlier on bonding and power cable routing and connections.. Good luck. 73
 
This is my setup.

Could it be better? Absolutely.

but, I haven't noticed any major issues with it either. Everything seems to work as it should.

Pay no mind to that silly camo, it was the only color I could find in stock when I was ready to buy.

BTW, that little mag antenna that came with the Midland is SUPER broadbanded. And SUPER lossy I suspect.
 

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Anything over 12 inches should be fine. That is a half wave at GMRS, so at that distance the 11M antenna shouldn't interfere with it. Any detuning effect on the 11M antenna will be minimal.
 

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