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AI doesn't like my antenna grounding system.

brandon7861

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I explained to googles AI that I had two lightning rods on a metal roof and a heavy braid that goes across the roof connecting them both to two ground rods on opposite sides of the cabin (separate from the panel ground on the adjacent side). I then told it that my tower is not cemented in and that it is just 20 feet of tower bolted to the cabin. I explained that I had a ground cable running from the tower leg to the heavy braid and that the lightning arrestor is also attached to the braid via a clamp about 10 inches above the ground.

It said that was terrible and extremely dangerous. I wasn't expecting that. It said I need to give the lightning arrestor its own cable down to the common point on the grounding rod because even that little 10 inches of braid from the rod up to the lightning arrestor represents a lot of inductance at RF (which lightning is composed of) and that I would have a situation where about 20kv would come back through my coax, into my radio, and then hunt down household ground from there.

When I said that the coax shield was bonded to the tower at the feedpoint and mentioned the tower physically touches the metal roof, it went into full panic mode. It told me that it was going to flash through my metal roofing and start a fire and that the arrestor is doing nothing in that case since the location it is clamped to will be at a similar potential as what comes down the coax and therefore have nowhere to go but down the center conductor.

Just when I think I have it all fairly well grounded, AI comes along and says its all wrong. I guess I need to dig down to the top of the rod and add a dedicated cable for the tower leg and for the arrestor. I had no idea that something like 10 inches of shared ground could be an issue.

edit: yea i better make sure that house ground ties in with the roof ground too. If the lightning brings the ground up several thousand volts at the roof rods and not the mains rod, there's an opportunity for the arc to jump from device to device. I guess I have work to do.
 
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Unfortunately I have to agree with the magic rock, and I also have to go lay down now. I wouldn't attach to the lightning rod system myself, especially since it's isolated from service. I thought the two were supposed to be bonded, maybe I can find my NEC book, the section(s) on grounding/bonding might help. Couldn't the rods radiate if there is much resistance in the braid to ground or poor ground connection?
 
Crawdad, thanks for the list of resources! Lots to go through there.

Cable Guy I do believe they are supposed to be grounded, and it may be that they are underground but I have to check. For some reason (maybe time) all the rods are below the surface. I can't see any of the connection points,just the cables going down, so I will have to dig up the tops and see whats connected to what. The braid should be really low resistance since it is a good half inch diameter but that inductance part and how much voltage can develop across a short run of it is something I hadn't considered. I don't know about the ground rod radiating. I'm sure some of the clay around it would turn to glass but i don't know. AI really wanted all grounds tied together at their lowest potential (right at the rods) and not branched together elsewhere so I will have to order some more of that braid and get it done right. As for the resistance of the connection at the rod, as soon as I dig them up, I will check the connections and probably clean them.

Thanks!
 

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