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gamegetter

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As for the questions raised above on whose problem it is...

I wanted to add the following and someone will correct the details here, but i did want to mention that If you are on 11meters cb and exceeding the 4 watts then it really is the cb radio operators problem. How he wants to correct it is up to him, make the changes mentioned or add filters to the neighbors appliances, but ultimately if the neighbors complain to the fcc, then his station will be found in violation if a linear is found.

If you are a licensed ham and running your station in accordance with the allowable power limits then you should check your station for any problems but in this situation it is the problem of the tv or other equipment. In this situation if the neighbors complain about the licensed ham station interference the fcc may check this station and as long as his station is good, then it is up to the neighbors to add filters to their equipment. A good ham operator could offer to help out.
 

Superidgit

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Much if not most of the time it is the equipment that is receiving the bad interference that is at fault. That means that the only way to fix the problem is to either filter at the devices in question (which would be inside your neighboring homes and businesses) or to replace them altogether. CroMagnum is correct as far as his replies that I've read. If your neighbors equipment is experiencing difficulties due to interference, the best (and often the only) way to fix it is to go to the device and add filtration there. In order to do that without catching a B&E case, you might want to ask the neighbor first BEFORE you enter their house/business.

To most people, your act of offering to install caps and filters on their equipment will seem like a very nice, generous thing to do. It's all in how you present it to them ;).


Eagle I see what you are saying and I do not disagree with Cro, however If all of a sudden I throw up an antenna and people around me start recieving interference. How is it their resposibility to remove the interference? Also Why should I go about fixing their equipment to remove said interference?

Why not fix my own junk so that the interference doesnt occur?


This is my entire question in this thread. And the way I read questioners question that is the answer they are looking for.
 

AudioShockwav

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And if it is a Bone stock CB Radio, running no more than the law allows, and all set up properly, and Ray does everything Legit, it is his neighbors problem.
There is supposed to be a little sticker on the back of that cheap tv set that says it will not cause interference and it is capable of accepting interference with in a certain level.
Now days we are flooded with ( as said above) crap electronics that has nothing in the way of filtering.

The best thing to do?
As suggested, If you neighbors are complaining, try to be as accommodating as possible, Offer to help solve the problem, and if it can not be resolved, they can write the FCC and FCC can come out and check to see if you are running a legal station.
If you are there is not much they can do....legally.
The best thing is try it the nice way first.

73
Jeff
 

eagle1911

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@gamegetter: That's true.. much of the responsibility for interference depends on the circumstances surrounding it. In my own experience I've found that offering to filter people's equipment if they complain is a great way to reassure your neighbors that you care about the fact that your signal is interfering with their equipment even if the equipment being interfered with is badly designed, which is often the case.. That's just being a good neighbor, but it's not necessarily required.

@superdigit: If you present the idea that the neighbor's gear is at fault to them in that direct manner you might find that they have much the same outlook about it as you do. The fact is, though, that in a case where the radio station is emitting a clean signal, up to FCC standards (all commercial ham rigs and amplifiers, and all stock CBs meet this criteria) then it is legally the fault of the other people's electronics for being unable to handle the interference. If your equipment meets this criteria, it will be next to impossible to "fix" it further. The radio op just needs to recognize the need for tact here.. you as an operator have just as much right to throw up an antenna on your own land and blast the airwaves (with CLEAN power at whatever your legal maximum power is) as your neighbors do to kick back and watch their TV, although many neighbors will disagree. If you feel inclined to be neighborly and try to help them out, it can very often curb that disagreement.
 
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Superidgit

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And if it is a Bone stock CB Radio, running no more than the law allows, and all set up properly, and Ray does everything Legit, it is his neighbors problem.
There is supposed to be a little sticker on the back of that cheap tv set that says it will not cause interference and it is capable of accepting interference with in a certain level.
Now days we are flooded with ( as said above) crap electronics that has nothing in the way of filtering.

The best thing to do?
As suggested, If you neighbors are complaining, try to be as accommodating as possible, Offer to help solve the problem, and if it can not be resolved, they can write the FCC and FCC can come out and check to see if you are running a legal station.
If you are there is not much they can do....legally.
The best thing is try it the nice way first.

73
Jeff

Thanks again ASW.

There is always another point of view.
 

Superidgit

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@superdigit: If you present the idea that the neighbor's gear is at fault to them in that direct manner you might find that they have much the same outlook about it as you do. The fact is, though, that in a case where the radio station is emitting a clean signal, up to FCC standards (all commercial ham rigs and amplifiers, and all stock CBs meet this criteria) then it is legally the fault of the other people's electronics for being unable to handle the interference. If your equipment meets this criteria, it will be next to impossible to "fix" it further. The radio op just needs to recognize the need for tact here.. you as an operator have just as much right to throw up an antenna on your own land and blast the airwaves (with CLEAN power at whatever your legal maximum power is) as your neighbors do to kick back and watch their TV, although many neighbors will disagree. If you feel inclined to be neighborly and try to help them out, it can very often curb that disagreement.



And again thank yhou Eagle for a different perspective.


I reckon this should mean we should all do our best to keep open minds.
 

gamegetter

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I guess the $64,000 dollar question is if you are running a bone stock cb. If so get it aligned tuned and set to correct parameters. No limiters clipped. Then work on your antenna. If still interfering u can offer to help them if u want, but they should have no recourse after your station has been set. If running amplifier then they will have a case
 

Robb

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I guess the $64,000 dollar question is if you are running a bone stock cb. If so get it aligned tuned and set to correct parameters. No limiters clipped. Then work on your antenna. If still interfering u can offer to help them if u want, but they should have no recourse after your station has been set. If running amplifier then they will have a case

You nailed it . . .
 

Simon004

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In reply to Robb, yes you're right, adding a ground plane kit to the Imax along with a choke will do the same thing as I suggested.

As for who's responsibility it is to solve RFI problems, if you are licensed and you own you own home, then maybe you can just shrug off neighbours RFI probs and tell them to piss off with a good legal standpoint, even if you are entitled to run X amount of power legally, and are convinced your station is as perfect as it can be, problems with neighbours are not nice, we all just want to get along, right? I've had problems with neighbours over the years, and from experience, i can guarantee the best approach is to be as nice as you can with the neighbours, and offer to fix/replace any equipment they have problems with, obviously you're not going to buy them all a new flat screen TV, but phones and stuff it is well worth doing if you want to be able to play radio. If you are renting your house you are in an even worse position, you might understand about RFI, but most people do not. From experience, the thought process of most people who do not understand radio is.... TV is fine >>>> HAM antenna goes up >>>> TVI >>>> Antenna comes down = problem solved. Most people don't understand about RFI, or how to fix it, they just have a 1 track mind, no HAM antenna = no TVI :(
 

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Thanks guys for all the INFO(y)What a great of bunch of guys on this site:blink:And a lot of good INFO:pop: 73S COATHANGER N.E. P.A.:)
 

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