thanks guys.
I will try that later Beetle, my old man picked it up along with a couple CB's from a yard sale. I just had it mounted to a pole in a tripod when I was trying to test it earlier, didn't think abiut the ground plane. I guess if nothing else I can trim the hook off and use it for 2m, was just hoping to find some specs on this thing, Google has not been my friend on this one.