Soviet space probe

[Eldorado828]

If you don't already know, here you go. It's mind blowing just how much space litter there is today and now we have a blast from the past.

Where will it crash land? The guess is a wide open case.

A failed Soviet Venus probe is falling to Earth, and an astronomer will attempt to catch it on camera on May 8

The Cosmos 482 spacecraft is expected to plunge back to Earth after 50 years in orbit.

www.space.com

 

[FlyBoy50]

I don't know much about it but wonder why they can't shoot it out of the sky to bust it up into smaller pieces. But that might make more shrapnel.

 

[brandon7861]

But that might make more shrapnel.

1,058 lbs of it. You could make 100 pieces out of it, and each will still be scary. Best to leave it at one piece and hope for the best.

 

[secret squirrel]

Irony, that was an episode of the Six Million Dollar Man. Called, "the Death Probe" Steve Austin had to destroy it. The Venus probe crash landed in Wyoming, but operated as it it was on Venus. Soviet Spies had a depleted Uranium shoulder fired rocket to destroy it.

 

[brandon7861]

This last pass had a perigee of 135.27km (if anyone is interested). I think 120km is the point of the last orbit and at 80km, gravity really gets a hold of it. If I read the prediction right, looks like 2am minnesota time,

 

[brandon7861]

Real time satellite tracking for:

Track satellite(s) and see where are they located now. Check when there will be the next pass over your location

www.n2yo.com

 

[FlyBoy50]

Real time satellite tracking for:

Track satellite(s) and see where are they located now. Check when there will be the next pass over your location

www.n2yo.com

Interesting but hope it doesn't create human misery. Mankind sure can mess up their own environment.

 

[FlyBoy50]

You would think with today's technology they could shoot it down when it is over a ocean, but maybe they aren't advanced that far yet ?

 

[brandon7861]

You would think with today's technology they could shoot it down when it is over a ocean, but maybe they aren't advanced that far yet ?

Busting something into pieces doesn't automatically change how gravity and momentum affect trajectory. The orbit around the earth is elliptical. It comes close, then it goes farther out. It wouldn't make much sense turning it into pieces when it is headed toward apogee. Shooting it down as it approaches perigee is most likely to work. But even then, you have to hope that you are shooting it down on the pass earths gravity doesn't let it go back up. Its complicated, the pieces don't just drop straight down because they get broken up.

It was going over 4 miles per second last I checked an hour ago. Edit, its almost 5

Another way to look at it is this. If you increase the surface area in an attempt to slow it down (kaboom), there has to be air to grab the pieces. If it is already close enough for there to be air, its already picked its spot.

 

[brandon7861]

Payload necessary to completely vaporize a polaris ranger > payload capacity of missile capable of intercepting a target moving 5 miles per second in the absence of air with no control surfaces. Its one thing to break a satellite and make it fall (eventually, in 50 years), but you are talking about erasing 480kg of mass (or thats what would have to happen anyhow).

 

[FlyBoy50]

Well I'm no expert in that field for sure but what pizzs me off is some poor human might have to pay the price for mankind fooling around with crap they have no control over. Mankind will destroy his own environment.

 

[BJ radionut]

Hope it lands in my backyard...be worth a fortune on Epay add a couple small meteorite's with rare earth elements also... Please about football size would be nice.
Last one of those type meteorites sold at auction few years back for $400K USD

 

[FlyBoy50]

Hope it lands in my backyard...be worth a fortune on Epay add a couple small meteorite's with rare earth elements also... Please about football size would be nice.
Last one of those type meteorites sold at auction few years back for $400K USD

LOL I have luck like my buddy, It would land in the middle of my roof and probably burn my house to the ground. LOL

 

[BJ radionut]

Only 245 meteorites have been classified as Martian in origin. This one sold at a Bonhams auction for $375,000-$450,000.

This meteorite only weighed 3.68 pounds​

The Gibeon Meteorite: sold at a Christie’s auction in February 2021 for $437,500.

The Conception Junction Meteorite​

Price: $755,299.24
Landed: Conception Junction, Missouri
Material: Iron pallasite
Found: 2006

 

[Crawdad]

Only 245 meteorites have been classified as Martian in origin. This one sold at a Bonhams auction for $375,000-$450,000.

This meteorite only weighed 3.68 pounds​

The Gibeon Meteorite: sold at a Christie’s auction in February 2021 for $437,500.

The Conception Junction Meteorite​

Price: $755,299.24
Landed: Conception Junction, Missouri
Material: Iron pallasite
Found: 2006

I'll take two please.....................