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I've just about had it with Internet Explorer

Moleculo

Moleculo

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I've been trying to chase down what appears to be bugs on this site for a few months. The last few days I've seen the site act wierd and not respond to certain clicks. I've performed database maintenance, checked the server settings, etc. This whole time I'm using Internet Explorer 8 with all the latest patches.

Just on a whim, I decided to bring up Firefox to see if the same things happen using that browser. To my surprise and shock, I don't have any of the same problems with the site using Firefox. The site is WAY faster. The "back" button bug is gone, the wierd slow response click issue is gone, all the "bugs" are gone using Firefox :headbang

I'm a Firefox convert now. I have to use IE8 at work because of some of our applications, but...

I don't get it. Why can't Microsoft put out a browser that doesn't have all of these issues? I'm chasing my tail for months, and the problem was with the browser the whole time???? This bites.
 

I don't use Firefox - and I have tried it.
Have you tried using Google Chrome? I know some software writers up here in Silicon Valley (both on 2m and 11m), and they prefer it. It's free - I think you might like it better than Firefox. Might give it a try - too...
 
The problem with Chrome is that it has some security issues.

The second point about Chrome is that it installs itself in a directory to which the user has full write access... even to the executables in it. This is, in part, how they accomplish their update trick. It also means that Chrome updates without any UAC prompts in Vista or Windows 7. I suspect that this last point explains why they chose to use a user-writeable directory.
In such a configuration, an exploit of a vulnerability of Chrome could modify the Chrome install directory even if the user was running as a standard user. It could install plug-ins, change proxy server settings, do all sorts of mischief. There may be other ways to do this even if the directory were properly protected, but Google makes it easier.
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Google Chrome's Security Practices Raise Eyebrows - News and Analysis by PC Magazine

Mole, I wondered why I hadn't noticed the problems you have seen but then I realized I use Firefox . I know one problem with IE is that it is integrated into the OS. I wonder if there is a conflict with the OS ?
 
Explorer (even 8) is well known for not implementing standards very well. Firefox has been adding too much bloat to maintain its appeal. Try Opera 10.0 I believe it and Chrome are still the only browsers that scored 100/100 on the acid 3 test.
 
kd0fqx said:
Explorer (even 8) is well known for not implementing standards very well. Firefox has been adding too much bloat to maintain its appeal. Try Opera 10.0 I believe it and Chrome are still the only browsers that scored 100/100 on the acid 3 test.
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Not sure if there was a newer test but the article I read stated that Safari ( Made by Apple ) is the only browser that scored 100/100. I opened my copy of Safari and took the Acid3 test ( The Acid3 Test ) and it scored 100/100.

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Sonwatcher said:
Not sure if there was a newer test but the article I read stated that Safari ( Made by Apple ) is the only browser that scored 100/100. I opened my copy of Safari and took the Acid3 test ( The Acid3 Test ) and it scored 100/100.

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I am a IT Security guy (see signature) Safari has security issues Apple will not acknowledge or fix.


IMHO, Sea Monkey and Foxfire are probably the best and most secure/functional browers at this point and FoxFire just had a new bug discovered today.

IE is an issue. There are certain websites that require it and some that will not function with it. So......run two or three browsers. 1. for purchases, 1. for general surfing, 1 for times when others do not work.

If you want another option look at Opera. I have issues with it, but others love it.

Chrome will be a great browser operating system in a couple years so keep an eye on it. At this point it has growing pains.
 
I performed the Acid3 test on the following browsers-

Safari- 100/100

Opera- 100/100

Chrome- 100/100

Firefox- 69/100

Seamonkey- 53/100

IE8- 20/100

I noticed something that gave me concern when downloading and setting up the browsers. My main browser is Firefox. When importing my favorites from Firefox all were able to import the favorites but not the passwords. Chrome on the other hand was able to import my passwords from the Firefox browser. :eek: Now go back to my previous post that states a security fault in Chrome is that the user or an outsider has access to to the files in Chrome.

The second point about Chrome is that it installs itself in a directory to which the user has full write access... even to the executables in it. This is, in part, how they accomplish their update trick. It also means that Chrome updates without any UAC prompts in Vista or Windows 7. I suspect that this last point explains why they chose to use a user-writeable directory.
In such a configuration, an exploit of a vulnerability of Chrome could modify the Chrome install directory even if the user was running as a standard user. It could install plug-ins, change proxy server settings, do all sorts of mischief. There may be other ways to do this even if the directory were properly protected, but Google makes it easier.
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This should be of concern.
 
Sonwatcher said:
I performed the Acid3 test on the following browsers-

Safari- 100/100

Opera- 100/100

Chrome- 100/100

Firefox- 69/100

Seamonkey- 53/100

IE8- 20/100

I noticed something that gave me concern when downloading and setting up the browsers. My main browser is Firefox. When importing my favorites from Firefox all were able to import the favorites but not the passwords. Chrome on the other hand was able to import my passwords from the Firefox browser. :eek: Now go back to my previous post that states a security fault in Chrome is that the user or an outsider has access to to the files in Chrome.

This should be of concern.
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If you hav'nt tried to get rid of chrome on xp you're in for quite a surprise.

Exploder8 sucks monkey balls in the speed area so I downloaded foxfire and am happy so far.
 
Chrome uninstalled without a problem. I used the Windows uninstaller. I like Firefox the best. I have used it right after it came out .
 

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