Thanks for the reply Henry. I was thinking this thread was trending the discussing toward and idea for why a yagi antenna with a gamma was a bad idea and that the beta match was much better choice. In this case I was remembering your bent driven element 11-4 F antenna and I thought it was pretty good idea to consider. I goofed up and did not explore the CMC issues fully, and Shockwave's comments brought light to my error. I'm sorry I posted the misleading information above. That said however, I think maybe some folks may have benefited with some better understanding for this issue on CMC, as a result of my mess up and Shockwave coming to my rescue.