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Discussion in 'Prepper Forum' started by 2NC995, Dec 8, 2019.

  1. S&W357

    S&W357 WDX-556 / 2NC556 $upporting Member

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    When S&W started assigning model numbers that N-frame size .357 revolver style above would become the Model 27.

    The N-frame .357's with a 3 1/2" barrel bring a premium price and are the ones folks like to find.



    This one below is a Model 27- 2 with a 3 1/2" barrel from the late 1970's...if my memory is right 1978.

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  2. WECSOG

    WECSOG Well-Known Member

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    Not according to Skeeter!
    http://www.darkcanyon.net/MyFriend_The357.htm
     
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  3. Slowmover

    Slowmover Sr. Member

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    Was him and Elmer Keith pushed for the .41.
    San Antonio used it (wrong loads).

    The .41 Remington is what the .357 wants to be.
    The .44 Mag offers nothing extra but recoil.

    The 10-mm dreams itself into comparability.

    38-Special is probably the 20th Cen Great Dispatcher by several miles.

    But aura counts. Weighs. Is papable.

    Lone Wolf Gonzaullas used to enquire if the other man had ever faced off against a big bore revolver. Said the barrel opening grew to the size of a howitzer.

    (Ha!)

    Ballistics is the rest. But women & weaklings took away the one shot stop ideal.

    Glock 20 is the suitable substitute today.

    Then and now an M1 Carbine is still superior in every way. Forensic coroners learned this as the knock-down, drag-out cases started after the 1950s when the Talmudists muddied things re capital cases, that the M1 (4.5-lbs & 15-rounds) was the de facto killer.

    And a really handy club.
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  4. WECSOG

    WECSOG Well-Known Member

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    I have nothing against the .41. Still kicking myself over missing out on a 4-5/8" 3 screw Blackhawk in that chambering, a few years ago.

    As for 10mm, it never ceases to amaze me how many millennials think a Glock 10mm is the ultimate outdoor sidearm, for defense against bears and such. A .357 can drive a 200 grain bullet faster than a 10mm can, and the greater sectional density means it will penetrate better.

    Personally, my top choice is .45 Colt. Preferably in a Ruger.
     
  5. S&W357

    S&W357 WDX-556 / 2NC556 $upporting Member

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    Yep
     
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  6. Slowmover

    Slowmover Sr. Member

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    You daily carry a big revolver?
    Concealed?

    That’s why the G20 is popular.
    It’s not easy to conceal,
    but it’s easier than a revolver with a REAL load.

    12-ga is good enough bear medicine.
    A G20 beats most others AND is portable.

    Most of us can’t afford an arsenal of choices.
    And it’s kinda dumb, anyhow.

    Next to no one lives in grizzly country.
    And no one regrets that range retraction.
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  7. S&W357

    S&W357 WDX-556 / 2NC556 $upporting Member

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    I owned this Glock 20 but was not overly impressed...sold it. I liked the OD frame color.

    But I do like Glocks in general and have a few...380 (1), 9mm (2) .40 (2)
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  8. WECSOG

    WECSOG Well-Known Member

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    Btw, if I wanted to carry a Glock for bear defense (I don't; an autopistol has zero advantages over a revolver in that role) it would be my G21, not a G20.
    A couple of years ago I could have bought a 10mm conversion barrel and a heavier spring assembly for less than $100 total, including shipping.
    Instead I bought the same spring assembly and a .45 ACP barrel with full case support. I can use loads in that gun that will make the 10mm hide under the porch.
    The heaviest 10mm load you can get drives a 220 grain bullet 1200 fps. This .45 can drive a 255 grain bullet 1300 fps. In the exact same sized handgun.
     
  9. WECSOG

    WECSOG Well-Known Member

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    See the pocket holster? It fits, and is no problem to carry concealed. That's a .44 Magnum btw.
    I carry my Ruger LCR .357 Mag more often, though. Also pocket carried.
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  10. S&W357

    S&W357 WDX-556 / 2NC556 $upporting Member

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    I like short barreled .44 magnums.

    S&W 629-5 2.5" barrel, fixed sights. The factory supplied grips are Hogue rubber. I like the Kim Ahrends wood ones better. Holster I had made by Tom Dyer (now retired) in Kingman AZ

    Also have some more .44 magnums and a couple of .44 specials. Rossi 720 & Charter Arms Bulldog.


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  11. WECSOG

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    Those are some nice looking .44s. (y)
    I used to have a Charter Bulldog .44. My Taurus Tracker snub is its replacement. I like Charter Arms, but not a huge fan of their Colt-style lockwork wherein the hand remains locked to the cylinder ratchet at the moment of firing. That's why the old Colts go out of time if you fire a lot of heavy loads in them.
    I loaded ~250 grain Keith bullets to about 900 fps in my Bulldog, and kept an eye on the timing. When it started showing the tiniest indication o going out of time, I sold it.
    The same load is a light load in the Tracker.

    For daily carry and only occasional shooting though, the 20 oz Bulldog packs a big punch in a small package.

    The Tracker snub is heavier, but it's pretty close to the size and weight of a snub Model 10. And how many detectives carried one of those concealed, every day for decades?
    The snub pre-10 pictured above was carried by a detective until the day he retired.
     
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  12. Shadetree Mechanic

    Shadetree Mechanic 808 On The North Side of Dover

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    This is my .38 Webely that was purchased by my father in the 60s out of the back of a magazine for $12. It was something like a WW2 British tank commanders side arm and the people selling it sawed off the barrel. My father had it tied up under the seat of his car to the seat spring just in case. Driving around metro DC you never know.

    The one on the right is my great grandfathers Iver johnson 22. He ran a gas station and traded a rifle for it. It is small enough to look like a toy.

    Edit: neither one has a serial number.
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  13. Shadetree Mechanic

    Shadetree Mechanic 808 On The North Side of Dover

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    This is on the Iver Johnson


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  14. WECSOG

    WECSOG Well-Known Member

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    Couple of neat revolvers! I'm a fan of "second tier" (for lack of a better term) revolvers.
     
  15. Slowmover

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    AKA “Charter Arms”

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