I had been looking for a decent first radio, and was trying to keep it on the cheaper side. I looked at a LOT of radios online, but a local made me a nice deal on a barely used icom 208H. It looks like it was NEVER used, actually. I was leaning toward the Yaesu ft-2800M, but for literally only a few more dollars, I got the dual band icom Now I have to learn how to program it:glare: