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HantaVirus

Se7en

Se7en

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3rd person has died today from catching the ViriI from exposure at the Yosemite national forest. Common sense folk's wash your hands, NEVER touch your face after handling yard waste, lawn clippings, or trash. Several years ago i was exposed to mold and it managed to end up in my right lung causing may problems including a collapse lung, heart failure left me in the hospital for 6 months.. i made a full recovery! this was all because i chose not to take precautionary measures while cleaning a shed without the proper attire. i was in my early 20s.

So again PEOPLE 4 way's of being safe:

If you must work in an area where contact with rodent urine or feces is possible, follow these recommendations from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC):
  1. When opening an unused cabin, shed, or other building, open all the doors and windows, leave the building, and allow the space to air out for 30 minutes.
  2. Return to the building and spray the surfaces, carpet, and other areas with a disinfectant. Leave the building for another 30 minutes.
  3. Spray mouse nests and droppings with a 10% solution of chlorine bleach or similar disinfectant. Allow it to sit for 30 minutes. Using rubber gloves, place the materials in plastic bags. Seal the bags and throw them in the trash or an incinerator. Dispose of gloves and cleaning materials in the same way.
  4. Wash all potentially contaminated hard surfaces with a bleach or disinfectant solution. Avoid vacuuming until the area has been thoroughly decontaminated. Then, vacuum the first few times with enough ventilation. Surgical masks may provide some protection.
 
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I am sure this is inspired by the recent outbreak at Yosemite Nat Park, it has been all over the news, and has gone global as NPS & DNC ( the National Park Service & Delaware North Corporation ) Has been contacting anyone that stayed at the park from About July about possible exposure to the virus.
The Hantavirus has been around for a while, the early 90`s, it is only carried by Deer Mice, not the common house mouse and was first detected in the 4 corners areas of the united states.
The problem is that it is a National Park, you are basically camping in the "wilderness" even in the Curry Village Signature tents. These are Canvas tents with wooden floors, and have double wall`s with insulation in between.
They are not a building, so there are ways for mice to enter the structure, If you live out in the woods you know mice can get through a hole the size of a quarter and they are industrious little critters, this is compounded by visitors that do not follow rules and bring food into there tent cabins.
It is a bad idea for many reasons, not only is there a mouse population that would love to share your snacks, it also attracts bears ( not a thing you want) and it just makes it worse.
Not all the blame can be levered at the visitors, there have also been some failures on the part of NPS and DNC in not listening to health officials in the past ( they were warned as early as 2010 that they needed to do more to exclude mice from tents, cabins, and living areas of the employees that live inside the park) and Both should have started much earlier to warn both visitors and employees about risks and taken a much more proactive look at the exposure of both.
The procedure above is basically correct.
Hantavirus is found in deer mice, the sick mouse can only pass the virus to humans in one way, you must breath it.
If there is Mouse feces, urine or saliva from a sick mouse on the floor, carpet, or anything in a enclosed area, and you stir it up in the air and you inhale it, there is a risk.
I suggest that if you visit the park, and stay in the facility's there, Any of them, inspect the tent or cabin for any signs of rodent activity, if you see ANYTHING, promptly contact the housekeeping staff.
Tell them you want different accommodation`s.
Another choice, is to stay outside of the park and simply visit the park during the day.
Bring your own camping gear, tents, RV or camper and stay in one of the campgrounds.
It is a beautiful place with much to see, and all of the beauty is outdoors anyway, not inside the tents and cabins.
The virus can only be active for about 72 hour`s when exposed to sunshine, so the risk is reduced a thousand fold as long as you are not in a enclosed space that lacks ventilation.
All of the signature tent cabins in curry village in the suspect area have been closed and are locked down.
In reality right now the employees that work there are at the moment, at higher risk that the visitors.


73
Jeff
 
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I would not stay in tents that have been left up in the woods four a long time....and for rodents to scurry around in....if I stay in a tent....it will be one that I bought and have taken care of.....no old rent a tent for me or mine.
 
I did war in my garage in 2004 against a mouse invasion. We lived in a rural area and we were storing boxes of food from our kitchen cabinets in the garage while the kitchen was being remodeled. It was fall and mice got in, found a gold mine of food and multiplied like mad. I turned on the light one night and what looked like a million mice went running for cover. When I found out about the haunta virus I freaked out and went to war with the little bastards.

I set standard and sticky traps and would sit in the garage for hours with a pellet pistol and pick off the little furballs. Total body count was 115 in about a week. What I didnt throw away from that garage I cleaned with a bleach solution. What a mess.
 
More info:
Note that it is the Deer Mouse here in CA that is responsible for the recent outbreak, and they can be found all across the United States.
There are 3 other know carriers of HPS.
The White footed Mouse, the Rice Rat, and the Cotton Rat.
Here is a Link to the CDC page about HPS.

CDC - Hantavirus

there are clickable links to show were these pests live in the U.S.
It is good to be informed about the virus and how to deal with it to protect your family no matter were you live.

Info from the National Park service:

Hantavirus Frequently Asked Questions - Yosemite National Park

Little Joe, your welcome, and thanks to V/S for starting the thread, it is more common than most people think, it can cause you to be fatally ill, but under most conditions it can be prevented.
But for everyone the best way to be safe, is to be smart and informed.






History of HPS:

CDC - History of Hantavirus Pulmonary Syndrome (HPS) - Hantavirus

Preventing Hantavirus Pulmonary Syndrome (HPS)
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CDC - Preventing Hantavirus Pulmonary Syndrome (HPS) - Hantavirus



As for Yosemite Nat Park.

Some people I have talked to feel that the concessionary company, Delaware North Company ( the entity that runs things inside the park) is going to have to change the way they do things from the current system they have in place now.
Granted That the increase in deer mouse population could very well just be caused by environmental conditions this year, but as a long term plan to help protect the public that they and the National park service depend on, It has been said that they need to become more pro-active. Even if this means removing some of the structures or changing the way guest`s and employees are housed in the Park.
Most of you might not know it, but approx 75% of the employees that work at Yosemite Nat park, live IN the park, and more than half of them live in tent cabins much like the ones used at Curry Village.
Most of them are single walled, have typically 2 or 3 beds, one propane powered heater, one electrical outlet and one overhead light.
There are also small one room buildings called WABS ( small cabins With Out Baths ) and there are community Kitchens, typically they have 4 stoves, several community refrigerators and freezers and several tables and chairs so employees can store, cook and eat there own food.
There are Laundry Rooms with washers and dryers for the employees.
There are also community bathrooms/showers in each living compound.
It is almost like a college dorm or military type of set-up, but all outdoors.
This suits itself well to younger, single people such as college age young adults although there are some married couples that live in the park as well.
There is some Dorm style living areas in the Yosemite village area, and some more modern buildings in what is called Curry Village residential area, or CVRA ( some times called "New Housing") this is reserved for management people or long time park employees.
Typically they are also one room units with a shared bath, such as there are two units side by side with a bathroom that has a door that will open into each unit.
They also have a community Kitchen and laundry room.
Only time will tell if there will be policy changes at the Park.


73
Jeff
 
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Vanilla Sky said:
Good idea ! Insted of them being put to sleep they can kill the lil bastard mice:thumbup:

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Remember your history....The Black Plague" in Europe........they killed the cats that killed the rats that carried the plague....they believed that the cats were the "devils familiars"
 

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