Makes me wonder...

[W5LZ]

There are two versions of a Kenwood TS-480. One has a tuner, SAT and 100 watts, the other does 200 watts, HX and no tuner. Both are nice radios.
I've noticed that the 'HX' version seems to be more 'desired' than the 'SAT' version. Because of the higher output, and "everybody knows tuners are no good", right? Yeah, right.
It seems lately that owners of the 'HX' version are really bent out of shape because the meter in the '480 doesn't do Pep, only average power. They find it odd that on CW and FM the meter reads that full 200 watts output, but not on SSB. They typically want to know how to 'fix' it, cuz it's gotta be broke, right?
I wonder what all that's about? What's the preoccupation with Pep and RMS or averaging meters? It's one of the easiest conversions there is, most of the time is doesn't even require a calculator.
- 'Doc

 

[C2]

a mathematical conversion does not give you the right answer

 

[W5LZ]

Considering how it's typically used, it close enough for government work. Two decimal place accuracy is just not needed for anything I can think of. Oh sure, it'd be nice to have, but it isn't going to make a bit of difference fro what most people would do with it. Just remember it isn't a Pep meter and you ought'a do just fine.
- 'Doc

Oh, that conversion is accurate if you know how to do it. Right?

 

[Captain Kilowatt]

Such is the way amateur radio is going. Nobody actually UNDERSTANDS radios and electronics anymore and why should they now that a baboon can get his ticket with a half hour of "studying". :thumbdown: A lot of these guys came from 11m where everybody knows that if the meter aint slamming the needle stop you just aint gettin out. :headbang

 

[park]

I would loovvveeee to have the SAT model, but not going to happen. Got work to do on the house this year.
To many radio hobbyist put to much into on what their "meter" is doing. That usually leads to having the mic gain up to high so they can watch the meter move way over to the right while they're modulating.
Have a friend that's been a ham for 30 years and at the beginning of our QSO his mic gain is too high. We get him to turn it down then he claims is out-put power is to low, I can still hear him great. But he can't stand it, with in 30 minutes he has slowly turned his mic gain back up so he can see that needle swing to the right. We now just let him leave it where he wants

 

[Lazybones1222]

I have the HX model. The exteral pep watt meter I use shows 200 watts easy. The meter in the radio shows avg as said above.

I use an exteranl tuner so I opted for the extra power. Great radios BTW.

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