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SHTF and Unconstitutional Red Flag Laws

Discussion in 'Prepper Forum' started by Redbeard U812, Apr 2, 2019.

  1. Slowmover

    Slowmover Sr. Member

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    Given that the current enlisted ranks ARE NOT what anyone would want (with individual exceptions) as the general forces are now a welfare scam (SF something else), it comes down to WHO will kill fellow Americans (which begs the question of whether paperwork “Americans” see us as their fellows. Ha!).

    This present state is by plan. The officer class is long gone. Not an accident. In a general war it will be collapse from within.

    The ONLY domestic advantage would be the Govt forces being able to call in artillery & air. Again, only if it’s answered. Thus 5G & it’s 20,000 orbiting satellites as complete substitute.

    Burning the Cathedral of Notre Dame should leave no one in doubt it’s The Last Trumpet. 1,000-years of Gods glory. Every stone and every note of music the architecture of Holy Spirit.

    The most beautiful city on Earth. Created by us. At her heart, that edifice on the island in the Seine.

    It’s no longer possible to advance the line in the sand. Every particle of every principle or concept you’ve loved in being alive on this Earth, it was in what that cathedral represents. There’s no more give.

    There’s not an aesthetic, intellectual or scientific argument or proof doesn’t start on the steps of that Cathedral. We had to be able to agree we COULD agree. Us. We. (The Light that Shineth).

    If one can’t understand this blow — they’re lost. The damned will have to find their own way hereon.



    Stabbing the heart of Paris (after 400 other church attacks in France) means naught is sacred. This is not by accident. France has always been the soul of Christendom. It has never been by accident that in war we spare The City of Light.

    In our lifetimes no one ever cared about you, your wife, and your children. Quite the opposite, in fact. However much they’re turned against you now, the role of protector has never been anyone else’s but yours.

    And now so is true of Western Man himself. Our bond is severed.

    You have no longer, “God-given Rights”. Where language ends, but men agreed that there was more . . that’s where it’s began at the completion of that cathedral. The first universities and the finest minds. The amity which — arising out of Supteme Art (“What is Truth? What is Beauty?”) — men from all of Christendom were able to agree to what is possible, and laid out room for Spirit to breathe.

    Why we are here.

    Now, you are not to be able to discover truths (which can be replicated by others). There is only “acceptance of Truth” henceforth.

    There is no appeal to God to them that want your end.

    You are cut down to scattered ten pins.

    There is naught between you and oblivion.


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  2. Slowmover

    Slowmover Sr. Member

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    Henceforth, speak only truth. And demand it in return.

    Put your specific skills to use.

    The Enemy fears nothing so much as he fears oratory. Inspiration. On this planet, we are the only ones who can and will rise above ourselves.

    Information TX & RX is only dits & dashes. Has no meaning of itself.
    Sound and fury signifying nothing.

    Wisdom is the never-ending distillation of experience & love. The words of which:

    Opened the Cathedral doors.


    Let him who has ears, hear.

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  3. Tallman

    Tallman W9WDX Amateur Radio Member, KW4YJ EXTRA class

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    I, (NAME), do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God.

    What happens when the orders are given is still up to the individual holding the weapons. In the oath above who is deciding who is the enemy? You can bet it is in the chain of command of the military. From the president down to the guy with his finger on the trigger. The person with the finger on the trigger is not privy to the information or the meeting in which policy is decided and must rely on personal beliefs.
     
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  4. 999

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    It was preached to us that we were obligated to NOT follow an illegal order. The issue is in determining what constitutes an illegal order. Without all of the pertinent information, it can be difficult at times.
     
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  5. Tallman

    Tallman W9WDX Amateur Radio Member, KW4YJ EXTRA class

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    I disagree with some of the commentary by Slowmover. I am dismayed that a lot of our military and it's veterans are more or less compared to street thugs. All people who served in the military are a cut above most of the civilians. We/they give up years of our lives to keep the United States safe from aggression regardless of the origin of the threat. I was personally treated like criminal because of my service. Released from active duty in 1974 with an HONORABLE DISCHARGE the economy was in the toilet, and even companies that were doing Govt' contracts would not touch veterans from that era thanks to the Mi Lai massacre. Even though I never set foot on Viet Namese soil I had to deal with that baggage. I never carried a weapon except while on watch and never fired it. I was hot stuff in the technical field and my primary weapons were the PSM-4 and the Simpson 260.
    While I disagree with what was said, I did defend the right for them to say it.
    Free speech does not guarantee a sympathetic audience and it is not free. It is paid for with lives and blood.
     
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  6. Redbeard U812

    Redbeard U812 Sr. Member

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    Since my friends, we are being philosophical this Wednesday morning, I too would like to add one which has stood with me for years. Some will scream blasphemy or debauchery, so be it. But God understands me. The first is quoted from the Bible, the later part makes one think.

    John 20:29
    "Blessed are those who have not seen and yet believe."....But where does that leave men like me who have seen too much? Am I condemned?

    Somewhere between Slowmover's and Tallman's posts the above came back to haunt me, again. It stands on moral grounds, judgments of man, ones own beliefs. The underlying note seems to be ones own ability to either make the sacrifice or take out the garbage. I will take out the garbage until the rats overrun my AO.

     
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  7. Tallman

    Tallman W9WDX Amateur Radio Member, KW4YJ EXTRA class

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    I understand what you are saying. I too have seen too much. The answer to are you condemned the answer is no. At one point in time I had no time or desire to follow a God that let certain things happen. I was angry. Once I really analyzed the situations God had nothing to do with it. It was a person executing his "FREE WILL" and will pay for it.
     
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  8. Redbeard U812

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    Exactly.....and applicable on both sides of the coin. That is where moral fiber between right and wrong need to be taught. Ability to think empowered. Consequences realized.

    We have the best country in the world, there are those who wish to destroy it for their own prosperity under the guise of "Saving us from ourselves". Not one Nanny State has ever been successful.

    If you look at the implosion on the left, they realize they cannot win, and therefore continue to burn the rue trying to change the rules. Electoral vote. 2nd, 4th, 5th, and 10th Amendments are all under the lefts assault. Liberal left media controlled propaganda, Hollywood elites fearing free thinkers, Congressional leaders lacking moral or testicle fortitude. Colleges and Public Schools no longer teach Civics, actual American History, or Correct World History......it's all been liberally changed to benefit socialism. Even moral ideas have been systemically altered.

    With each and every assault on my morals and US Constitution it brings me closer to the reality. Pivotal it seems.
     
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  9. Tallman

    Tallman W9WDX Amateur Radio Member, KW4YJ EXTRA class

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  10. 357magnum

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    Tall , sounds like we served around the same time . Semper Fi ! Ooo Rah !(y)
     
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  11. Tallman

    Tallman W9WDX Amateur Radio Member, KW4YJ EXTRA class

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    Think about this, we were "Running and Gunning" before most of the puppies were born.
     
  12. 357magnum

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    Tall ,(y) Gunning still ... Yes ! Running .... Not so much !:ROFLMAO:
     
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  13. Tallman

    Tallman W9WDX Amateur Radio Member, KW4YJ EXTRA class

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    :cautious::censored::censored::giggle:
     
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  14. Slowmover

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    In the past 10-15/yrs years the Armed Forces is changed past your belief. Desert Storm is so long ago it has the same relevance as Korea to today.

    We’re “at war” in 14-countries at present. 90% of Africa. Special Forces is now the military. Totally untouchable. Answers to no one.

    As to Whom: That the finest American military man in history — a shining example of honor — is publicly-degraded with lies, calumny and shame the past couple of years . . . and all of our so-called heroic veterans did nothing more than belch and grab another cheap beer, well, it’s ALL anyone needs to know about the depth of American courage & sacrifice these days. Belief in God-given Rights = Non-Existent. EVERY. DAMNED. ONE. OF. THEM.

    I ain’t trying to rattle your cage, but to make a point:

    The war is almost over


    On our departure from this life we can gift our children & grandchildren with yet more Hollywood trash and say, hey, “wear some knee pads before they line all y’all up at the big trench at the city landfill”.

    Remember playing Capture the Flag? That was the power of torching Cathedral Notre Dame. The symbolism is overpowering.



    The Commies give orders. We take them.
    That’s who we’ve become. Every. Damned. One. Of. Us.

    Without a common belief in Right & Wrong, it IS over.

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  15. Slowmover

    Slowmover Sr. Member

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    Next step: Google erases every image, paper, article & reference prior to 1963. Has a substitute ready. (This is not the first time)

    Buh-bye Ghost People
     

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