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ARRL is Loosing my Membership/If passed!

I will continue to veer off topic a little... As for power, 100 w is more challenging. I started out collecting QSLs about a year ago. I decided to go for my dxcc (100 confirmed) the old fashioned way...no eqsl, lotw, ect... PAPER QSL. I'm at 62 and have 25 or so out...waiting on snail mail. Something about opening up the mail box and having a new entity confirmed....for me it's like Christmas lol. All these have been done with 100 watts and a yagi/G5RV with less than ideal band conditions and limited time off work.
 
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This is like one of the video games I play you had to work up to lvl 60 to get that Fast mount so you can run around like the pimp you are.
But it was was not that simple, after you hit 60 you had to Grind for weeks to get the materials to summon the mount then you had to get a large group of people to run this dungeon and clear it out and when you got to that boss and you killed it. all that hard work you had that mount..
But then after 2 expansions they killed all the Quests for the mounts and you just paid for it.. so many people where pissed off that they had to work so hard to get it now every one can just pay for it. it sucks but you know if there was a CW test i would never have my ticket and there would be less people on..
 
Hell, if all I had to do was pay for it I would get mine!!! I take test all the time at my job..Im tired of taking test!!
 
Not wanting to re-inflame this discussion, but this graphic shows with significant clarity the extent to which this proposal will reshape privileges.
I can only say that it makes very little sense in arguing if passed this will stimulate techs to upgrade. Why bother when nearly everything including the kitchen sink is being given away in the bands proposed for change at minimum preparation.
I still struggle to grasp much of what there is to know and learn, and although cw code was not required of me to obtain my license, the word "privileges" still came as having that meaning for me when I sweated the general test.

Again, I personally hope the proposal fails.

It's simple, any Amateur that remains in their current class through failure to test to the next level by choice does not have any interest in the expanded privileges of the broader classes.
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Just reading site stuff. Never had any license, thinking about it tho.

In this thread keep seeing cw bla bla bla. Idk, to me, cw was me copying code 3 1/2 decades ago at 85 gpm. Lol I was looking at the fcc licensing stuff and noticed that it is not required. I haven't a clue what was ever required or what will be, or oi the reference to cw even pertains to code.

I just don't want to run afoul of the law around here is I did messing with 10 meter stuff from home. My old hillbilly buddy (RIP Tits) used to always say, don't sh#t in your own backyard.

Anyway, looks like all you gotta do is read some and memorize for the tests. What say you to a new guy about licensing and so forth?
 
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Just reading site stuff. Never had any license, thinking about it tho.

In this thread keep seeing cw bla bla bla. Idk, to me, cw was me copying code 3 1/2 decades ago at 85 gpm. Lol I was looking at the fcc licensing stuff and noticed that it is not required. I haven't a clue what was ever required or what will be, or oi the reference to cw even pertains to code.

I just don't want to run afoul of the law around here is I did messing with 10 meter stuff from home. My old hillbilly buddy (RIP Tits) used to always say, don't sh#t in your own backyard.

Anyway, looks like all you gotta do is read some and memorize for the tests. What say you to a new guy about licensing and so forth?

yep, 5 year olds do it.
 
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Been an Amateur for 63 years, got a complete belly full of the ARRL many years ago, I would be a member if it was free.
 
I ask this question: Isn't it more important to operate according to the rules and regulations than knowing theory? Do you need to take a test on communications theory to operate a cell phone? :LOL:
No that would be overkill. The operators of cellphones do not have any choice as to how much power or the frequencies to operate on. It is a mindless gadget like a garage door opener.
 
I've got to make an observation here...

I don't know if anyone has approached this ARRL membership issues' this way but I have make a quick post and I'll let the chips fall where they may...

In trying to attract new members, you show off a brand new playground of frequencies, modes and methods to use - not unlike a set placards, of "WELCOME TO OUR PLAYGROUND - Here are some BASIC rules..."

You show them your list; it's longer that a roll of Toilet paper...

On top of that is a hostility the "Establishment" has, against newcomers...

Not unlike a bully telling you "you can't be on that swing - go play in that sand box with the rest of your kind"

Now think about that ...

Because you're losing members and dissent is in the ranks - because of similar treatment...

You have a brand new playground, Teeter totter, Swings, Rocking Horses - pools and fountains - all the niceties' and accessories a playground of technology needs. But no, the newcomers and all their kind must go play in a "Sandbox" - where everything and anything goes - the good or the bad - the riff-raff and those that prey upon them - reside there and it usually comes out where many simply don't have the time or the need to experience that kind of treatment.

You need to change, upgrade, remodel, rebuild or tear down and start all over again - it'd better be soon. Because - inaction - that results in what you'll lose; all the help you have now, and in your future too, if current trends were to continue
 
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If you give the Techs what is being discussed here, what will they have to look forward to? They probably will never go any farther then the technician class.
I know when I was a tech I was bummed about my lack of privledges, but the again all I had was a 2m and 10 meter rig. It was ok because 10 meter was wide open, and I had a lot of fun.
I took an 8 week tech course taught by Hams, and we went through the ARRL tech manual, but we didn't use their answers. In fact the instructors had there own version of the same questions. We had homework, quizzes, and tests. Plus on hands stuff. It was awesome. We all passed or tech exam. I know for a fact I learned a little radio stuff. I worked hard for my exam. I'm a retired technician, not electronics but machinery, so besides the military radios I operated, and my CB that's all i had to draw on for electronics or radio theory. Not an easy task. I'd still be on the radio sidelines if I had to learn code. Glad I didn't have to go through that. Just like the guys going through advanced hydraulic school that don't have to memorize 30 formulas like we did back in 1992. Now when students go to there first class the instructors give them the cheat sheet condensed down to a wallet size card, and they can use it anytime they want to except for the final exam. Am I mad about that still ? No, because in the real world in the field working on a complex hydraulic system if you don't remember the correct math or system component function you look it up in your service manual, and make the repair. The job gets done, and everybody is happy. I don't fault them for that. I think its the best way.
I know the code is tough, but if I was a ham that had to learn code I would not be discouraging new hams, or belittling them because they didn't have to learn code. They might not have even heard of Morse Code. If they want to learn it, there are many publications and the internet to get them through it. Don't talk down to them, there looking to you older hams for camaraderie and maybe a little recognition that they just passed a test that they were interested in, and are excited about. Help them out.
Now as far as giving them more privileges I say Negative. Some say the tech exam is easy, and it no doubt is, but that's what it is, and they passed what has been deemed as necessary by the powers to be.
Now let them study some more to advance to the General class, but I don't think giving techs more band width is the answer.
I'm studying for my Extra, and as far as im concerned, the book might as well come from an alien civilization. How could someone remember 500 questions? Being 61, im going to have to study because this old CPU in my skull won't remember 500 questions.
I have been belittled by a few operators in a very round about way, who we're bacially telling me that because I was a no code ham I was dog do do. That doesn't help this hobby in no way or form. We're all going to die, and soon the young no codes will take over this hobby, and hopefully it will continue to thrive. It might not look like the same ham radio your used to , but neither is the engine in my 2015 diesel pickup. It looks more like nuclear submarine under the hood compared to my first car, a 1959 Chevy Cheyene . the thing is they both do what there supposed to do, there not the same, but as the years pile up they to change with the times.
There's so much for us to be thankful for, why not spread the ham radio love, and help our new friends on the air out. We might not be here tomorrow, so just enjoy radio as long as you can, and maybe help out a new Tech.

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I like code, always have. Some of my best radio memories come from my CW days as a novice back in the 60’s. When the FCC first eliminated the code requirement, I was hurt, but later realized it shouldn’t be a necessity. What really hurts me now and still does is the total release of all the questions with answers. I doubt anyone besides a draft dodger would choose a doctor that received his medical license from some Podunk on-line university by memorizing all the tests. Am I proud of something I earned? You bet, and I'm more than happy to help and learn from any Newbee so they can someday be proud too. Sinful pride? Debatable, but I never claimed to be an angel.
 
I have to wonder seriously if you could ever see the FCC get to a point where A: they take all licenses requirements off the table and don't require any work to get on the ham bands or B: they eventually take all the classes of licenses and just make 1 class of license and make it even easier for lack of a better word to get access to the Ham bands. What ever happened to hard work,studying and earning what you learned? I hope I worded that correctly. You can't expect everything in life to be handed to you,you gotta work hard,learn and earn in my opinion!!
 
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