Drugs.

Smokinone said:

An old proverb, "No good deed goes unpunished"

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That's the truth. It bothers my wife when I try and distance myself from him, like I said earlier I'll only interact with him if he asks me questions but I keep the answers short and sweet. I told her every time I'm nice or try to establish some kind of common ground with him ,he'll screw me over every single time. I've already replaced my cordless tools because I refuse to pay the pawnshop anymore for my own property back. Now the tools stay locked up in my truck and go where I go, I only take them out if I have to use them, now the wallet will be done the same way. I apologize for dragging this crap up again, but I really have no friends to vent to here at home, so I vent on here because sometimes it's all I have. I know it the same ol song, second verse same as the first. Again sorry.

2NC995 said:

Very OT...but something plaguing me.

Has anyone had to deal with a loved one hooked on drugs?

It’s been a while now, and things have come to a head. I have little faith in the resources available. Don’t know what to do.

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I have a stepdaughter heroin addict, currently in-recovery and over two years clean. God (through his servants in a church in TN where she now lives) stepped in. That said, she was clean several times before, always relapsed, and cost the family THOUSANDS in stolen property including priceless heirlooms, two vehicles, and stolen CC debt.
I regret to be of the opinion that there is very little you can do for him/her. Because, to the addict, everyone, (including family, even their own children) are potential "funding sources" for their next high. They will do whatever it takes.
We also lost a son-in-law to an OD in 2016, leaving three daughters to grieve among the rest of us. Only the SELF-MOTIVATED individual addict, relying upon a lot of help from God, can change their course.

Haven't been on the forum in Months!! Was still having problems with the son's drug addiction. I had went to work in OKC two and a half hours away from the house only to get a phone call from my daughter tell me my son was taking my tools and whatever he could get his hands on. So immediately went back home confronted him, got the police involved, kicked him out , then gave everyone in my household the ultimatum that if they weren't with me their against me. And they could all leave because the nice guy has had enough, I'm not being nice any longer. Since that day two months ago I've lived the most peaceful I've ever lived in my own home ever! Told the wife I hate to be this way but I've had all I'm gonna take, don't let me catch you lying, going behind my back and giving the boy money or paying his fines. I don't want a divorce after 38 years but if that's what it takes, that's what I'll do, I'm not living like this any longer. So far so good. I tried to keep it short. O, almost forgot, he went to rehab in Tyler Texas and staying at a sober living house. Hope it helps him but as of right now, I'm not interested in having contact with him anytime soon.

G-Golly Wally said:

Haven't been on the forum in Months!! Was still having problems with the son's drug addiction. I had went to work in OKC two and a half hours away from the house only to get a phone call from my daughter tell me my son was taking my tools and whatever he could get his hands on. So immediately went back home confronted him, got the police involved, kicked him out , then gave everyone in my household the ultimatum that if they weren't with me their against me. And they could all leave because the nice guy has had enough, I'm not being nice any longer. Since that day two months ago I've lived the most peaceful I've ever lived in my own home ever! Told the wife I hate to be this way but I've had all I'm gonna take, don't let me catch you lying, going behind my back and giving the boy money or paying his fines. I don't want a divorce after 38 years but if that's what it takes, that's what I'll do, I'm not living like this any longer. So far so good. I tried to keep it short. O, almost forgot, he went to rehab in Tyler Texas and staying at a sober living house. Hope it helps him but as of right now, I'm not interested in having contact with him anytime soon.

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Do you know when a person is had enough they've had enough.
Like my friend John said when he was alive when you get sick and tired of being sick and tired that's when you do something different about it.
I've been around a couple of church programs at churches with guys and girls and all kinds of problems a lot of them have been locked up at times in local or state maybe federal prisons. Seems like the biggest part of issues are drugs and drug related in those guys and girls.
Anyway my heart goes out to your brother and I said a prayer for you your son and your family. I hope anyone else is reading these posts will put at least a prayer in to help intercede. Keith

Oh yeah and if he's not in a one-year program it would be great if he could get in a one year at least one year church program

My eldest son (I have five kids) has been on the cycle of drug abuse and rehab since he was 15. He's 33 this year. He gets totally f****ed up on drugs, then goes to rehab, successfully completes the program which is either a one or five year program. The he gets approved for housing, moves out of rehab center and immediately gets back into the drugs. Rinse and repeat. I talk to him about once every couple of years. I decided when he was 20 to focus my energy on his siblings who weren't hooked on drugs instead of wasting my time and energy on someone that was. Sounds harsh but that's the reality.... I only have so much to give!

The freaky thing is, he told me that the drug dealers are literally sitting on the steps of the rehab center waiting for people to come out. Five years and they can't even walk down the road for five minutes before people are offering them drugs again. Screwed up system.

yes, I quit a part-time job at that Tractor Supply place a few weeks ago.

I loaned some money to a "Team Leader" there, and found out he
is into the pills. he said his electricity was being cut off, and
also being evicted. all the lies. calling me up at 3
in the morning, all high, for money, He owes other people money there also.
He would pass out at work from drugs.

the drugs, the pills. the lies. heard it all before.
But I care for people.

Tractor Supply does not drug test their employees.
I had this talk with the manager that hired me.
I told him about the problem with drugs at other employers.

So I will apply for the part time Summer job at Lowe's again,
where I worked for two summers already.
they drug test people. I actually hate that!

actually, I am a Libertarian type of guy.
I don't care if people do drugs n drink.
they can get drunk, do pills, get high.
Just don't let it affect me, and society.
but that is what happens.

years ago, I would let people that were real drunk stay
at my place for the night, instead of driving home drunk.
but after a few bad experiences with this, I say NO.

It is a shame that kids, and adults for that matter get caught up in this crap. The drugs are too readily available. I think the surge of addiction also took a sharp turn in the wrong direction as our job market went overseas, trade schools shut down, and a lot of school programs were also shut down, like auto shop, drafting, wood shop, to name a few. Even a lot of sports programs were cut out. A lot of little things that would give someone some confidence in themselves.
I was or am, depending how you look at it, an alcoholic. I guess I'm lucky enough to have a beer or shot now and then, but not take it to a level of stupidity as I used to.
I've not had the hard drug issues of addiction, but personally know friends that have dealt with it. Same story, addiction, rehab, addiction, rehab...an on going circle in most cases. I guess the euphoria of the drugs, or escape from reality is too great.
My friends son has the problem, smart kid, just can't get off it. In his 40's or close to it, started in his teens. Gets off, gets a good job, goes back to the meth. He does HVAC, and is good at it, his boss's love the guy, then he gets back on drugs and ruins the good run. Over and over.

In a previous post I kick my son out last Nov he went to a rehab in Tyler Texas. He stayed in Pittsburgh Texas since then and seemed to be doing alright as far as I could tell over Facebook post he'd make. So he announced over Facebook he was coming back to Oklahoma. I told my wife he'll be back to using in less than a month. I've remained NC with him other than checking up on him through his Facebook post to keep an eye on his movements. Well he was in Oklahoma, not my house that's not happening again. In Oklahoma right at about a month, he stopped answering his mother's phone calls, stopped posting on Facebook and avoiding anyone that's trying to contact him. I know he's using again because this is what he does every time he's up to no good. He's also been associating with a well known drug addict in Leflore county. So im 100% sure he's back to smoking meth. But on a good note, things are peaceful at my house, haven't had money come up missing or tools pawned since he's been gone. and all the money my wife kept telling me i probably dropped or misplaced when he was living in my home, funny I haven't dropped or misplaced a dime since he's been gone. His life is a train wreck and I can't help that, that's on him . But life has been peaceful without him causing problems under my roof.