7' Skipshooter (Pictures and measurements)

[Rebel Outlaw]

Don't poke your eye out!

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And that is how it’s done. Absolutely Impossible to disagree with.

 

[freecell]

EZNEC VERSION 5.0 SOURCE DATA
"42.44, X = -20.44 ohms = 1.598 SWR."


R42.44 -jX20.44 ≠ 1.598:1 SWR

Z = sqrt Rsq + Xsq
Z = sqrt 42.44sq + -20.44sq
Z = sqrt 1801.1536 + 417.7936
Z = sqrt 2218.9472
Z = 47.10570241488816 ohms

SWR = 50 / 47.10570241488816
SWR = 1.061442616004747

SWR = 75 / 47.10570241488816
SWR = 1.59216392400712

Ref: https://www.worldwidedx.com/threads/7-skipshooter-pictures-and-measurements.253558/#post-714430

 

[The DB]

"42.44, X = -20.44 ohms = 1.598 SWR."

R42.44 -jX20.44 ≠ 1.598:1 SWR

Z = sqrt Rsq + Xsq
Z = sqrt 42.44sq + -20.44sq
Z = sqrt 1801.1536 + 417.7936
Z = sqrt 2218.9472
Z = 47.10570241488816 ohms

SWR = 50 / 47.10570241488816
SWR = 1.061442616004747

Marconi read those numbers from a modeling program, and the program is, in fact, accurate.

You made the mistake by dividing the absolute load impedance (or Z) from 50 ohms. This is not the correct next step.

Below is a link to a web site that both has a calculator, and shows the actual math behind it...

https://chemandy.com/calculators/return-loss-and-mismatch-calculator.htm


The DB

 

[hotrod]

i m running a 5 foot skipshooter on the roof of my personal vehicle..works great !! especially where ilive lots of hills and valleys...ive tried most of the fiberglass antennas and this one is by far the best...its only downfall i see is its not as broadband as say a 10k, mr.coily, ,monkeymade,ect..and it wont handle the output of the big coil antennas either..but for tx and rx there every bit as good as the open coils maybe even better in the valleys less dropouts

 

[Squints]

The skipshooter antenna should handle 10000 watts considering souly by the construction and material the antenna is made from.
As facts still remain that the longer the antenna and spacing of the wire wrap can be the differance between a little heat and no heat at all when 10000 watts keys down into it.
I have witnessed the 7 footer withstand about 7500 watts avg and peak 8000 watts and 10 hours of talk time in 1 night.
The antenna never warmed up and swr stayed under 1.5 under max load.
I beleive this antenna would never have any issues at all as long as the antenna is away from everything as much as possible to eliminate as much reflection pissible on this antenna when pushing 5000 or better would malfunction and heat up quikly.
My winess of this action took place on top of a big hill in appalachia where nothing around the antenna to reflect on for 2 miles

 

[Marconi]

Below are some measurements and photos I took for Marconi. He is working on a model for this antenna.

Figured I would share with all:

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BASE:

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MID SECTION:

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UPPER SECTION:

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TIP:

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Thanks again 2nc995 for providing me an internal view for the real 7' Skipshooter mobile antenna. I used these pretty comprehensive details to effectively model the antenna with Eznec.

That said, This model of the 7' Sharpshooter has a slanted down radial ground plane, not mobile vehicle body. Also, the model posted above does not show a nice low match, but it is good enough for government work.

Thanks for all the comments.

 

[Marconi]

Below are some measurements and photos I took for Marconi. He is working on a model for this antenna.

Figured I would share with all:

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BASE:

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MID SECTION:

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UPPER SECTION:

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TIP:

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Here is the tuned version of the 7' Skipshooter. I'm hopeful to get the complete PDF file to post. Use the <> to move from each PDF file. Doesn't look like it use to, but I haven't figured out the new software. Sorry

Should be 11 PDF views, but only 10 posted. I guess there is a limit.

Eddie

EDIT: I added the 11th PDF image, the last image the image is the source (Matching details) and is titled "2nc995 TrskipshooterTuned 3."

 

[Squints]

I understand. I just threw in my two cents and could be talking out my ***.

With a 1/4 wave antenna, like most mobile antennas, the highest current, most radiation and lowest voltage is at the bottom of the antenna.

At the tip you have high voltage, low current and minimum radiation. Current makes heat. And high voltage can cause an arc or corona discharge.

Sharp points will begin to arc at much lower voltage than something larger and spherical.

Another reason I disagree with the nail dissipating heat is because the antenna would still fail eventually when the nail became saturated with heat. The nail is small and a poor heatsink.

My theory is that another fiberglass antenna with the same dimensions and gauge wire will take just as much as a skipshooter with a modification. Pull out the end of wire at the tip and solder on a small ring or corona ball.

I have several of these 7 ft skipshooter whips and the one in currently useing I had to cut off the tunable part of the top coil plus a little bit of the oil itself until I was left with a 6 inch loading coil on top for my swr to be 1.1 from 1 to 40.
After I did this the skipshooter has outperformed every antenna I have experimented with that's been ongoing for the past 4 years.
102 inch as whips and Wilson's hustlers magnums none of those ever got out or received as good as the skipshooter 7 ft mounted to a balcony rail on the side of a apartment building.