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President Antenna's

Discussion in 'CB Antennas' started by RoadRanger, Feb 27, 2016.

  1. RoadRanger

    RoadRanger Active Member

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    Anyone heard of these, or have one?
    What are they like?



    http://dev.president-electronics.us/Radial-Whip
     

  2. 222DBFL

    222DBFL Sr. Member

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    Not sure if they are out yet. They are coming, but haven't seen a release date yet. I could be wrong, but they have some radios coming out as well. I suppose they'll release the antennas around the same time. The TX antenna looks promising.
     
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  3. Robb

    Robb Yup

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    Some interesting design on a couple of these models.
    Some good; some not so.

    The good? The Iowa version uses two rings to change the coil inductance, just like the Imax 2000 or the A99 antenna uses. No need to trim the whip to get the right match. Speaking of the whip, I am no fan of antennas that use a whip of 40 inches/less, as they tend to be very narrow banded. Mobile antenna are already compromised and offer no gain.

    On the Alabama version, the center section is made of clear plastic. So long as that plastic has been ultraviolet stabilized, that would be OK. If not; then mechanical failure/breakage is inevitable within a few short years. Doesn't use the ring method for tuning as the Iowa version does. Does use a 60 inch long whip - comparable to a Wilson 1000/5000. Whips that are 5 ft or longer seem to have decent efficiency and have better bandwidth than the 40 inch antennas, so this one a clear step up from the first one.

    Now, the Maryland version uses a 57 inch whip AND the tuning ring like the Iowa version does. It doesn't use clear plastic on the base either. So far, that looks like the best choice.

    The bad? The Mississippi version just sucks - IMO. Short antenna whip that uses both a center load and base coil. Only 28 inches in height; uh oh. The worst antenna so far and a real loser because of the low efficiency and very narrow banded design. Wonder if it can make the standard 40 CB channels with an acceptable SWR . . . doubtful . . .

    The Texas version is the real winner in this lineup that I can see. The whip is a whopping 83 inches tall, making the need for the coil to be minimal to reach the proper impedance and therefore offers the least loss of all the aforementioned antennas. Very wide banded and very efficient design. No mention of thickness of the whip, as a thin gauge whip will be anything but perpendicular at even low vehicle speeds - and therefore have a poor radiating pattern.

    What I dislike about all of them is that they just use the 3/8" screw base instead of using a SO-239 like a Wilson or a Sirio does. Limits one to use their mag base or some cheap off the shelf job that may not be stable when the vehicle reaches freeway speeds in a headwind.

    What I like about them is that the whip material is a cheap stainless steel. Better a cheap stainless than no stainless at all.

    But this is all I can gather from what can be seen in the pictures provided . . . just thought I would stir the pot a little . . .
     
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  4. RoadRanger

    RoadRanger Active Member

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    I thought the tuning rings were a nice.
    Will have to wait to see how they stand up to a good winter.
     
  5. StrangeBrew

    StrangeBrew Sr. Member

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    The Mississippi version looks like it was designed more to look impressive in the truck stop store than to sound impressive on the air, seems gimmicky to me.

    Texas says it's a 7/8 wave, can this work or is it just marketing BS?

    If the quality is there the Maryland and Iowa seem to have potential.
     
  6. M0GVZ

    M0GVZ Sr. Member

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    If you aren't afraid to drill a hole you can use these puppies.

    https://breedlovemounts.com/Puck_Mounts.php
     
  7. Road Squawker

    Road Squawker Sr. Member

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    well they are gonna be at the mid america hamfest , err,........... truck show
    [​IMG]
    www.truckingshow.com
    MATS 2016
    LOUISVILLE, KENTUCKY / March 31-April 2, 2016
    Group President Electronics will have the pleasure to welcome you to their booth.

    WEST WING - Booth: 64196
     
  8. fourstringburn

    fourstringburn W9WDX Amateur Radio Club Member K5KNM

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    The Maryland claims 2000 KHz bandwidth, That I would like to see.
    Notice they don't print the actual frequency range tested in that bandwidth in the antennas SWR curve.

    I see new fancy designs in an attempt to re-invent the wheel.

    Disregard what Robb says about 3/8 stud mounts.

    3/8 stud mounts on mobile antennas have been around for decades and unless you put them on hand tight, you are not likely to lose it. I been using them for decades myself with all kinds of mobile antennas and yet to have lost one.

    I'm currently using a Hustler tri-band series which is 3 large resonator coils on a 24 in. mast all with 3/8 stud mounts on a semi-truck driving over 3000 miles a week with rough roads and high winds and all kinds of weather with no problems.

    This is what I'm currently using only with even larger coils.

    [​IMG]



    If your in the market for a good mobile antenna now, go with the Sirio 5000 series.
     
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  9. midnight special

    midnight special Well-Known Member

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    on british cb site from a year ago,,, guy complains he cant get a president virginia to set for the cept band there which is our 40 channels plus thier 40 (80),,,, says he cant trim or add on and wished he got something else
     
  10. Robb

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    Yeah, I know that truckers use this format and others use the 3/8 stud design with a puck, big whoop.

    My comment was to point out to others/non-truckers that Sirio and Wilson use the SO-239 when using a mag mount, and they offer nothing in that regard. That's all . . .
     
  11. fourstringburn

    fourstringburn W9WDX Amateur Radio Club Member K5KNM

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    Big woop? people who know better and are experienced in mobile antennas use this mounting format for a reason. Obviously you lack much of any mobile experience.

    You initially said

    " What I dislike about all of them is that they just use the 3/8" screw base instead of using a SO-239 like a Wilson What I dislike about all of them is that they just use the 3/8" screw base instead of using a SO-239 like a Wilson"

    That is implying that these antennas with 3/8 studs have limitations, wrong! There are far more and better mounting options with 3/8 studs then having a SO 239 terminus. That's a Fact!

    You also said,

    "Limits one to use their mag base or some cheap off the shelf job that may not be stable when the vehicle reaches freeway speeds in a headwind"

    Ridiculous,

    Again having to be limited to stud mount applications to you is like downgrading to having to use an old rotary dial phone.

    M0GVZ and many others recommend Breedlove puck mounts which seem to be the best quality mounts around and nearly all accept 3/8 x 24 studs and your "big woop" comment is directed at those.


    Once again you are trying to put a spin on everything you say wrong to try and save face.
     
  12. Robb

    Robb Yup

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    Who cares about what antenna you use on your rig?
    Big whoop . . . egomaniac.
     
  13. fourstringburn

    fourstringburn W9WDX Amateur Radio Club Member K5KNM

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    I posted it there to show you how once again you are wrong!

    ...and your still a loser!
     
  14. Robb

    Robb Yup

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    Egomaniac and a narcissist.
    Look it up.
    Don't argue with a fool on his own terms, or risk stooping to his level and become as foolish as he is . . .
     
  15. fourstringburn

    fourstringburn W9WDX Amateur Radio Club Member K5KNM

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    I called you that nearly 2 years ago, I guess you looked those words up for yourself and now you can use them, but not in a complete sentence! :LOL::LOL::LOL:
     

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