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They love the Tasers...
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You still haven't clarified this odd statement.
And you have no clue as to what I have and haven't done.
People raise their children to have no respect for any other people, to be self-centered. So when they go out on the weekends to raise hell in the community, they quickly find out that the police are not to be toyed with.
Happens all the time in my area, then people act surprised when the police act like police and take care of business. The police aren't to be mocked...they are the police. This kid was playing games and he got what he deserved.
As far as what you've done, no, I don't know. I do know for sure you have never worked in public safety though or you wouldn't have the issues you have.
cmon 74, you know that skinny little 17 year old kid with a broken foot and a broken back needed tazed. whats wrong with you?
Care to elaborate a bit on that? A department that assisted the State police isn't quite the state police. What'd you assist the state police with?
lets stay on topic, did a skinny little boy with a broken back need tazed?
Well I haven't seen many tow truck drivers that had to handcuff people.
Have you ever worked in a capacity where you had to restrain people with handcuffs or for that matter straight jackets? You yourself, not standing by watching trained people do it....because it looks MUCH easier than it is to the untrained observer because of the intense level of practice you have to keep up to do it effectively.
I've done both for many years each. Neither operation is easy, most people just have no clue at all what it is like to restrain someone who is unwilling to play along.
In that process, those tasked with the custody should not be expected to be at any more risk while doing so than they would be sitting at home. That is a Utopian goal, but anything at all that helps to approach that is o.k. with me.
When I left the business, we used night sticks and chemical agents...a taser would have spared a lot of people a lot of injuries.
Plus, you have to keep in mind that a taser's use pushes the threshold for use of deadly force an order of magnitude higher than it used to be. You can taser someone now for reasons you could have easily justified shooting them just ten years ago or so.
No kidding, I guess that's why I didn't claim to be a State cop.
Now I'm a tow truck driver.:glare:
Funny how it's all about "attack the messenger".
Shows how weak your arguements are.
And how little research you've done on this incident.
The boy WAS drug and alcohol tested, and this info was available at the time of the first post.:drool:
lets stay on topic, did a skinny little boy with a broken back need tazed?
What was that?^^^^^^ Why didn't it apply here?
Oh yeah, cops stick together. Given a choice of doing the right thing and doing nothing, guess what? It's shown right here on this thread.
Rookie cop in hot water after video shows him slamming biker
By TAMER EL-GHOBASHY
DAILY NEWS POLICE BUREAU
Updated Tuesday, July 29th 2008, 3:13 AM
A rookie NYPD cop was stripped of his badge and gun Monday after a stunning video caught him slamming a bicyclist to the ground in an apparent unprovoked attack.
Officer Patrick Pogan, 22, of the Midtown South Precinct, was bounced to desk duty soon after the video of Friday's incident in Times Square appeared on YouTube.
"The video is bad - what can you say?" a police source said. The damning video not only revealed an out-of-the-blue attack but also seems to show Pogan lied about the incident in court papers.
Pogan was one of two cops at Seventh Ave. and 46th St. monitoring a Critical Mass bike rally when a swarm of cyclists rode by ringing their bells about 9:35 p.m. Without warning, Pogan, a former high school football offensive lineman, appears to single out one cyclist, jog toward the sidewalk and then slam his shoulder into the biker.
The impact sent Christopher Long, 29, crashing to the pavement in front of shocked onlookers.
"All of a sudden the cop picked this kid out and bodychecked him," said cyclist Craig Radhuber, 54, who was riding about 3 feet to the right of Long. "I couldn't believe what was going on."
When Long tried to get up, Pogan and his partner tackled him to the ground and tried to handcuff him, witnesses said. Long "was startled and shaken, and the officers were being really violent," said witness Bill DiPaola, director of Time's Up! an environmental group that supports Critical Mass.
Long, of Bloomfield, N.J., was arrested and charged with attempted assault, resisting arrest and disorderly conduct. He declined to comment yesterday. His lawyer David Rankin said "the video speaks for itself" and said he may sue.
In court documents, Pogan said he saw Long weaving in and out of lanes and obstructing traffic before he ordered the cyclist to stop. The cop claimed Long deliberately drove his bike into him, sending both of them falling to the ground. Pogan claimed to have suffered cuts from the impact.
The video clearly shows Long trying to dodge Pogan, who appears to have remained upright the entire time.
Long, a grocer at the Union Square Green Market, has been described as an Army veteran and mild-mannered environmental activist. "He is a very well-meaning guy," said his boss, Morse Pitts, 56.
A law enforcement source said the charges against Long would likely "go away" and another source predicted Pogan would be fired.
Police spokesman Paul Browne said the incident is being investigated.
Pogan's father, a retired NYPD detective who worked on the Joint Terrorism Task Force, defended his son's actions last night. "You gotta do what you gotta do to make an arrest," said Patrick Pogan Sr., 51, who retired in 2002.
He said his son is the third generation of NYPD in the family. "I'm proud of my son. He's a good kid."
Critical Mass and Time's Up! - which advocate for environmental issues with the monthly protest ride - have long complained about NYPD harassment. Police officials said the groups disrupt traffic and lack permits.
"Cyclists here already face enough obstacles - law enforcement shouldn't be one of them," said City Councilman David Yassky (D-Brooklyn), a supporter of biker rights.
tel-ghobashy@nydailynews.com
With Alison Gendar, Wil Cruz, Edgar Sandoval and Simone Weichselbaum
Hmmm, I hear the cricket chirping.
Really, in the back yard.
But I notice a lack of response to evidence that contradicts certain arguments.
I'm not really a cop hater.
In my younger days, I scuffled with 'em a bit, but now we are all on a first name basis.
They call me Chris and I call them officer.
I'm glad that taser use here is rare. Cops seem confident enough to do it the old fashioned way.
Really, in the back yard.
But I notice a lack of response to evidence that contradicts certain arguments.
I'm not really a cop hater.
In my younger days, I scuffled with 'em a bit, but now we are all on a first name basis.
They call me Chris and I call them officer.
I'm glad that taser use here is rare. Cops seem confident enough to do it the old fashioned way.
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I haven't?
Think of the worst bar you've been to.
Then think of one that the patrons there won't go.
I was a bouncer there. No club, no pepper spray, I left my .45 behind the bar. No Taser.
Just words and sometimes a "hands on" approach.
Am I privileged to have a clue now?
I haven't?
Think of the worst bar you've been to.
Then think of one that the patrons there won't go.
I was a bouncer there. No club, no pepper spray, I left my .45 behind the bar. No Taser.
Just words and sometimes a "hands on" approach.
Am I privileged to have a clue now?
They weren't going to jail....I bounced too, it was FAR easier.
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