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New thread to debate V-4000

Henry, please allow me a few days to dig the actual prototypes out of the storage unit to take the required measurements. Thanksgiving holiday is Thursday and I have to fill several orders before I can take free time. I'll also attempt to send photographs of the constructed antennas so you can see the differences in the phase shift sections that worked in the field and the ones that failed.

Green with envy . . .
 
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Actual concepts of the antenna have very clear,

The V-4000 antenna, "Dominator" or whatever you call it, is only a Zeppelin antenna(J-pole) and nothing more, just a crazy mind can come up which is co-linear.
I leave the fantasy for others.


saludos!!
 
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If coax cant radiate why is the T2LT such a good antenna, and why does a hot braid outer skin cause so much rfi and receive so much noise? Obviously because its part of the radiating system.

I love this J pole crap, A T2LT is a coaxial only centrefed dipole, nothing added to radiate, yet it wipes the floor with antron 99's and cheap silver rods with lossy coils.

Old vector 4000 was a 5/8 wave over a 1/4 wave colinear, new one is a 1/2 wave over a 1/4 wave colinear, no antenna 5/8 wave or .64 touches it on line of sight, how can that be if its an end fed dipole or j pole?
 
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Good try my old friend, but he will just post a picture of a old J-pole hanging under a zeppelin and tell you that is all it is.
Even after watching the CST animation over and over and over and over and over and over.....

Good to see you Jazz, hope you are well.

73
Jeff
 
Good try my old friend, but he will just post a picture of a old J-pole hanging under a zeppelin and tell you that is all it is.
Even after watching the CST animation over and over and over and over and over and over.....

Good to see you Jazz, hope you are well.

73
Jeff
yeah i'm not too bad Jeff, i know, i ain't seen a zeppelin for a while, i heard a rumour the luftwaffe gave up on them when someone told them avanti released the sigma 4, lmao 73 jazz

sometimes its hard to see a forest because all the trees get in your way, llf
 
from when a coaxial is radiant??

was invented to not radiate

:bdh:


Cebik publish this?????????????

:eek::w00t:

seems I'm the only one awake?? Nobody saw this before?

<gotproof>



:headbang:headbang:headbang:headbang:headbang:headbang

I think you should read up on the skin effect, at RF frequencies the RF only penetrates microns into the copper, therefore if not choked coax is a 3 conductor cable until you add enough impedance on the shield to minimise current flow on the outer skin to the point where it is almost a balanced feeder,

but if you don't choke it at feedpoint (point where it loops over) it becomes a radiating element until you reach the choke which sets the length of the lower element on the shield outer surface,and reduces radiation to almost zero on radio side of choke, leaving almost balanced rf currents on inside of shield and centre conductor, it's an AC signal so polarity reverses 27 million times per second.


I smell so much bullshit i'd swear i was in Spain :)
 
I think 'nosepc's biggest problem is language. There are subtle differences in any two languages that can change the meaning or the expression of an idea. That being said, I also think that he is 'bouncing ideas' around to see what other people think, which everyone does to some extent.
From there, it gets complicated. How currents are displayed is one of those complications. In the above pictures, those currents are 'simplified' to a huge extent for clarity. They aren't just on 'one side' of the conductor, they are on 'both sides'. (That's an over-simplification but it does give an idea of what/where a problem may be.) How those 'opposing' currents react, or displaying how they react makes for a very interesting 'simple' picture, which means that you either have a large number of pictures for one simple idea, or you have to take for granted that people understand what you are trying to show. Good luck with that! Or, RTFM...
- 'Doc

And for 'nosepc', RTFM means Read The "Furnished" Manual. "Furnished" isn't exactly what that 'F' means, but it's the polite way of saying it. ;)


For once I agree with you Doc, he does have a language problem , he talks fluent fucking shite !!!!
 
I am a little late to this party, but thanks.

As I have said before, I now see, read and learn a lot
thanks to the internet that was not around in 1967.

All the information, misinformation, opinions,
theory, real life experience all come together.
Sure does get interesting.

One thing that the internet reinforces, is my belief
that there are many people that believe what they
believe, regardless of other people's real life experience.

I find it interesting, however I tend to believe information
about the subject at hand based from first hand experience.
I am glad there are so many that can and have shared that information.

I am also glad, in this case, that I can sit back read, learn and not
be frustrated opinionated people that disregard real life experiences.

Thanks for the information ( I have been making many searches)
and the entrainment.
 
When you start to accept for valid, erroneous data, no wonder then assigned fantastic properties to real objects.

"Dominator is a co-lineal antenna" :LOL:
 
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Nosepc
You have stated your views about the antenna, either provide new test results you have done personally or give it a rest.
Really.
This started a flame war, the reason we moved it out of Bob85`s thread about this antenna.


Jeff
 
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