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Yeti Communications Ltd said:
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what ever happened to the no 10m amp law the usa had? was that removed?
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Well, there used to be a Part 97 reg about harmonics of Amateur amps operated above 15 meters.

The FCC Certification listing for most amateur amplifiers are all listed for operation below 25 MHz and the certification stops at 21.450 MHz.

The only HF Amateur amps (that I know of) that are certificated to operate above 15 meters are the Alphas and THP's.

ALL Part 97 HF Amplifiers that can operate above 25 MHz must also pass commercial specifications contained in TIA-603C. (good luck with doing that at current prices)
 
The issue is not about whether he was or was not legally operating or possessing the amp; but rather if the video was lawfully on YouTube. If the video was legally posted the content is not relevant. YouTube is full of illegal acts.
Why do these threads always lead to a discussion about the use of amps on 11 meters? That debate has sailed, is boring, is dead, and is uninteresting. Enough, too much, much too much.
 
Pappas and Beer said:
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Why do these threads always lead to a discussion about the use of amps on 11 meters? That debate has sailed, is boring, is dead, and is uninteresting. Enough, too much, much too much.
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HUH??? the only place amps and 11 meters were even (casually) mentioned was in post # 12/14
 
If he was building equipment and showing it on YouTube - not illegal. If he was building illegal equipment and selling it AND using YouTube to "market" it - then what he was doing was illegal as you can't "market" radio equipment unless it's FCC certified.

The reason the 11 meter amps came up is in regards to showing equipment on YouTube and if for example showing a "cb amplifier" on YouTube would warrant the FCC coming after you - to which the answer is no. And it goes back to the law on ownership.

In regards to CB'ers who don't have a ham radio license owning amplifiers - totally legal. They can buy and sell as private individuals and do whatever they want with them as long as they don't use them - however the FCC rules talking about possession and assumption of use that were posted are correct - but would only apply in the case of the FCC actually coming to your house and inspecting your station.

If the FCC comes to your house to inspect AND you have a CB station setup or enough equipment to look like you at one time had a station - then they legally can prosecute based upon the possession and assumption of illegal use, however doubtful that would hold up in court on its own unless they had some other proof of illegal operations such as super powerful signals coming out of your station that they had already recorded. Which if they are coming to your house they most likely did record you already - BUT you probably would have already received a letter first in the mail warning you before they bother with an actual inspection. So if they do show up at your house you're a total dumbass and deserve the visit :)

You can make a video of yourself showing a amplifier on YouTube - however I don't recommend showing your CB station in the background or the amp hooked up or in use with your Cobra 2000 :)

A video of an amplifier isn't illegal - a video of a amplifier being illegally used is technically against Youtube rules but they likely wouldn't know of the legality issue. The interesting question would be - could the FCC prosecute you for illegal operation based on a YouTube video of you showing illegal operation of a station? To which I think the answer would still be no as to prove the illegal use they would still need some sort of physical proof of actual operation (RF signal) coming from your station but it definitely brings up some new questions in our technical age :)
 
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Big Kahuna said:
FCC doesn't care what you build or show on YouTube in terms of radio equipment unless it's sole purpose would be to cause interference to the radio spectrum which then falls into a different category anyway.

You can build linears, radios, or just about anything you want that's radio related and show it on YouTube - completely legal. Using it though may be a different story.

This is where ham guys seem to get the law wrong. Anyone can own any of the ham equipment, amplifiers etc - any cb guy can own an ameritron - not illegal until they hook it up to an antenna and use it.

Either the guy got something fake from someone to scare him or he just doesn't want to do videos anymore.
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Maybe you can take some time READ the post about having an amplifier capable of use
in your POSSESSION, does not need to be connected,
 
357 said:
I've heard people been sent fake letters...
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It's even worse in my mind that a jealous radio enthusiasts could have done this, if it's a fake letter that means somebody ruined it from inside the CB/HAM community, and now this mans craftwork will be lost to time when it could have showed a major aspect of the culture & educate people on what goes into building these boxes..
 
Big Kahuna said:
A video of an amplifier isn't illegal - a video of a amplifier being illegally used is technically against Youtube rules but they likely wouldn't know of the legality issue. The interesting question would be - could the FCC prosecute you for illegal operation based on a YouTube video of you showing illegal operation of a station? To which I think the answer would still be no as to prove the illegal use they would still need some sort of physical proof of actual operation (RF signal) coming from your station but it definitely brings up some new questions in our technical age :)
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Given the FACT that mere possession of an amp capable of operation on 11m where the operator of said station does not possess a license allowing use of said amplifier in another radio service is in and of itself illegal there does NOT need to be any "physical proof" of actual operating in the form of RF emitting from his station. The FCC rules make that pretty clear.
 
Captain Kilowatt said:
Given the FACT that mere possession of an amp capable of operation on 11m where the operator of said station does not possess a license allowing use of said amplifier in another radio service is in and of itself illegal there does NOT need to be any "physical proof" of actual operating in the form of RF emitting from his station. The FCC rules make that pretty clear.
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Seeing as how I do not have a registered callsign here in the United States I must be in no position to design, develop, build or test any RF power amplifier device on a dummy load? Even if I was an electronical engineer, surely you don't need a license for amateur radio use to develop and test an RF device on a dummy load.

In the FCC ruling it states that simple possession by an unauthorized user could be used as evidence but this is all within the context, if an average Joe has an amplifier and no CB radio or any other radio equipment for that matter, it will be kind of hard to say that Joe Blow was breaking the rules without a proper station in existence to even examine.

The rules are worded this way for a reason, people need to becareful even discussing illegal power on 11 meters, or else the thought police will kick your front door down and take your HT's. (Sick joke)

Fake letter or not, it seems like the builders online should be more cautious in their disclaimer, and presentation.
 
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No way was that illegal. There is nothing wrong with filming and posting illegal acts. Law enforcement cannot order take downs of videos. The whole Internet is full of illegal acts. Making meth, making bombs, making illegal cars, making knock off televisions, making amps, it's all legal to post. This is ridiculous.
 
LeapFrog said:
Fake letter or not, it seems like the builders online should be more cautious in their disclaimer, and presentation.
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No, just no. Never let the government "chill" your desire to speak. Videos are a form of speech. You must fight for your right to post whatever you want except child pner Everything else is game. When the government tells you to be quiet, speak louder.
 
LeapFrog said:
Seeing as how I do not have a registered callsign here in the United States I must be in no position to design, develop, build or test any RF power amplifier device on a dummy load? Even if I was an electronical engineer, surely you don't need a license for amateur radio use to develop and test an RF device on a dummy load.

In the FCC ruling it states that simple possession by an unauthorized user could be used as evidence but this is all within the context, if an average Joe has an amplifier and no CB radio or any other radio equipment for that matter, it will be kind of hard to say that Joe Blow was breaking the rules without a proper station in existence to even examine.

The rules are worded this way for a reason, people need to becareful even discussing illegal power on 11 meters, or else the thought police will kick your front door down and take your HT's. (Sick joke)

Fake letter or not, it seems like the builders online should be more cautious in their disclaimer, and presentation.
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I couldn't care less what someone posts as a video on YouTube whether it consists of an illegal activity or not. If I don't like it I won't watch it. I just think some folks are taking the content and entire context of some videos WAY too seriously. My comment was to simply correct a false statement about what the law is regarding possession of an amplifier capable of operation on 11m when the operator has no license in ANY radio service where that amplifier may be legal. The FCC is NOT going to bust your door in for showing the world your amp and gear. Period.
 
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