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Off Limit Freq's

Frequencies

Me and my friends used to "slide" between the channels so as to avoid any potential problems. There's like 6 different frequencies available. We always referred to them as "1/2 Channels". We found out the old timers had them color-coded also for some reason that escapes me at the moment.

"Brown" "Ch.3 1/2" 26.9950
"Red" "Ch.7 1/2" 27.0450
"Orange" "Ch.11 1/2" 27.0950
"Yellow" "Ch.15 1/2" 27.1450
"Green" "Ch.19 1/2" 27.1950
"Blue" "Ch.23 1/2" 27.2550

Drives 'em bonkers trying to follow you and eavesdrop and their clarifier/VFO won't slide that far! LOL!
 
broncoman529 said:
Well, 26.200-26.500 is pretty heavy at times also. USB is usually international DX and LSB is mostly USA. If you shift up or down 5-10kc's on those frequencies you will hear even more on the SSB modes. Hope this helps :)

And there ARE *some* agencies such as Civil Air Patrol that have frequency assignments on 26 megs. Yes, they DO use them for search support. Such frequencies at low power 5 watt level provide relief for VHF circuits for air-ground, air-air activity. They are used for on-base things like messenger and runners, tote board for aircraft and vehicles, command and control between the communications section and the Incident staff. One hundred Fifty watt SSB is used for mobiles for ground search activity out to about 40-50 miles. Each distinctive mode and frequency is used for a specific purpose including digital traffic, and also serves to thwart newshounds and scanner listeners whose FM scanners won't decode SSB.
Actual search and rescue missions have been interrupted by people who thought those "freeband" frequencies were there for the taking. Some of them, including one in my local area, got CAUGHT and heavily fined for interferring with emergency traffic.

Sure, you *may* never get "caught" down there. But if you ever interfere with the military and they DO decide to go after you, you will be in a world of hurt! The CAP fellows don't like it, and they, like the hams, will pursue you---with assistance from USAF Frequency Management. So is it *really* WORTH it? ($$)


CWM
 
He actually has a valid point there. You should be carefull freebanding on freqs that occasionally are still needed by their legitimate users. That's one reason I like to stay in the old 27.430-27.530 business band. Not very likely to be a problem messing with a government agency there.

Somewhere there is a list of each frequency that is assigned to the feds, including the CAP freqs that CW is referring to.

Knowing these can help keep you out of trouble, and that's the name of the game when you get to spinning the 11 meter dial.
 
99.99999999999999% of all public service units have gone UHF, VHF, Lowband, Trunking....Update your reading material CW. Its outdated. Most of what you are talking about was above 30MHz anyway. Quite frankly your information stinks.
 
Here is a list ofall who are licensed between 26.000 and 26.965. Mostly media and broadcasting.

http://wireless2.fcc.gov/UlsApp/Uls...licSearcKey20060311715502&curPage=3&reqPage=1

Here is a list of all who are licensed between 27.405 and 28.000. Mostly business.

http://wireless2.fcc.gov/UlsApp/Uls...licSearcKey20060311720652&curPage=2&reqPage=1

Lists of CAP frequencies...

http://www.milaircomms.com/uhf_cap.html
http://tuolumneradio.com/cap.html
http://www.carmachicago.com/cap.htm

26.600, 26.610, 26.617, 26.620 are/were CAP frequencies

A list of MARS frequencies...

http://www.totse.com/en/media/radio_scanner_frequency_lists/ham020.html

None in 26-28 MHz range.
 
frmboybuck said:
99.99999999999999% of all public service units have gone UHF, VHF, Lowband, Trunking....Update your reading material CW. Its outdated. Most of what you are talking about was above 30MHz anyway. Quite frankly your information stinks.

Son, my info is NOT outdated. Read it again. If you read it carefully, I told you WHY those frequencies are used, HOW they are used, and to what purpose. It is NOT "reading material". Once again, for those who are not informationally challenged, much of that agency's communications IS on VHF.
There is quite a difference between jabber-jabber yakking for the sake of yakking and what is called FREQUENCY MANAGEMENT. Part of the job is allocating frequency resources according to:

1. Mission

2. Traffic

3. Resources

In order to do that, a frequency may be chosen, NOT for the long-held mantra of CB radio "gittin' out", but in order to CONTROL content AND distance. If you have 5 aircraft in the air, 5 ground search teams to coordinate, 8 flight line attendants, 4 messengers with handhelds, the tracking personnel for tote boards, and finally, the mission staff, VHF can get crowded quickly. The result is either interference, missed information, and a general slowdown in the progress of the mission. LIVES are at stake. So a low-power, short range--even AM--circuit may be chosen to relieve the VHF circuits for the mission base personnel. Once again, there is an advantage in using the older technology equipment below CB channel 1 in that, it IS low power, only needs to cover maybe 100 yards, cuts down interference to OTHER units, AND thwarts the news media who *may* be trying to listen into the mission, perhaps showing up at an active crash site--even releasing the fact that a crash has occurred before the proper people can notify the families. The old "name withheld pending notification of next of kin" routine. The news hounds CAN be very insensitive at times; all they care about is getting their bloody story. With low power AM their scanners are not as likely to know what is up until the proper time. Sometimes the CAP folks use SSB which further thwarts their efforts to evesdrop. VHF is readily monitored with scanners.

Now I realize that Mr. Farmboy sees it only from the standpoint of a CBer whose only interest is yapping away. He firmly believes that he should be yakking on the "freeband" because he has a vested interest, sees it from the standpoint of the popular CB viewpoint, and knows little if anything about professional communications, and no understanding of the real reasons why freebanders should not be treading on those "funny" channels. High frequency communications may be chosen for a variety of reasons--all basically tied to the things I listed above. The 26 MHZ frequencies ARE used by those folks around here, and I have first hand knowledge of a fellow that felt that he, too, had a "rah't" to tawk on them channels :p . So happened there WAS a search for a missing aircraft in progress. He got hit for a couple of grand which was a LOT at the time and durn near went to jail over it. He was messing up the ground crew people and they were ready to jerk someone up and slap the dog(censored) out of him! :p


So stay away from down there. True, you might get away with it for a time, but then................................................. is it really worth it? I can guarantee that if you were in this area, and start talking on CAP's frequencies, you will find yourself in serious trouble QUICK! There is a VERY active squadron in the area and they won't take kindly to interlopers--same as the hams finding CBers on the 10 Meter band! :)

73 all :D

CWM
 
181 said:
Here is a list ofall who are licensed between 26.000 and 26.965. Mostly media and broadcasting.

http://wireless2.fcc.gov/UlsApp/Uls...licSearcKey20060311715502&curPage=3&reqPage=1

Here is a list of all who are licensed between 27.405 and 28.000. Mostly business.

http://wireless2.fcc.gov/UlsApp/Uls...licSearcKey20060311720652&curPage=2&reqPage=1

Lists of CAP frequencies...

http://www.milaircomms.com/uhf_cap.html
http://tuolumneradio.com/cap.html
http://www.carmachicago.com/cap.htm

26.600, 26.610, 26.617, 26.620 are/were CAP frequencies

A list of MARS frequencies...

http://www.totse.com/en/media/radio_scanner_frequency_lists/ham020.html

None in 26-28 MHz range.

Most of those CAP frequencies are inaccurate and will be changing soon to further comply with NTIA regulations.

CWM
 
Blah, Blah.....More useless drivel from Rover. If agencies still use these freqs they are in serious need of updating their communication equipment. Those freqs are NOT dependable in a S&R situation. I dont go below channel 1 because I have no use for it. No one talks SSB down there.
 
Just shows you don't READ. I SAID that when this resource is used, it usually is only needed to cover a perimeter or an immediate area. Amplitude modulation with very low power works excellently and relieves the more crowded VHF circuits. Also, SSB IS used by this agency at the 100+ watt level and it gives base/mobile comms out to about 50 miles which is often PLENTY to accomplish the job. And besides, so long as people BELIEVE that HF is not used (outdated, ineffective, etc), those "old" resources can be used while the newshounds and security leaks scratch their heads wondering why they aren't hearing anything on their fance FM scanners! :) With low band AM, SSB for farther out, and the ISR radios, the mission gets done, and the VHF circuits get relieved of overload.


CWM
 
C W Morse,

I don't make regular practice of going below into the 26 range, What I posted was just some knowledge of things I have experienced. I am aware of those frequencies being used for what you had listed. Personally I have never heard any communications of the sort, But those communications on occasion do happen. People do need to remember that no matter where you go outside of 26.965-27.405 4w AM and 12w SSB is illegal unless licensed to do so. Anytime you freeband you are taking a risk.
 
Ya I guess that applies when there's no skipp.
But I don't know how anyone can work those freqs.when
QRMEXICO kicks in.
Gees those guys are chewin it up from 25-29mhz in all modes with roger beeps and Echo.
I pitty the poor fool dat try to comunicate when those boys get loud! :x
 
Just use common sence-- stay away from Ham freqs-- alot of the hams out there talk more on the freeband then 10 meter--i think like alot of guys have mentioned 28.000 mhz and up is off limits-- as far as the other way, below channel 1, your going to have to check the bandwidth of your antenna-- more than likly you won't be able to go too far below 26.500 without the swr going through the roof-- or you might be able to but will have a bad match above 27.800-- depends which way your antenna is tuned
My point is-- stay off the 10 meter band--- but you most likly won't want to tx up there anyways because of the bad swr--
My other point is if you are using the usual cb antenna your swr will rise when you get up past 27.600 and around 26.700 (more or less)
So if you just transmit where the swr is decent your going to be ok---
And if you hear some military guy come on (your not going to) just start saying "break channel 19 can i get a radio check"-- "there must be somethin wrong with my radio, I can't hear anything" "somethin must be wrong with the radio"
LOL
 
I talk on 28.475 all the time, no-one complaints! hell I even get on FM -29.660 and rag chew all the time with no complaints, You guys worry to much :twisted:

Oh by the by, I am licensed for said frequencies :LOL:
 
Slip on up to 28.610 SSB sometime. There's a local group that hangs out each evening until their TV programs come on. They
(me, too) drift away one by one after 8-9 PM and they'll show up again around 10-11. You might hear us sometime when the conditions are right.

:) CWM
 

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