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Snake oil or real deal, Perpetual motion machine?

Discussion in 'Announcements & Open Forum' started by Tallman, Nov 14, 2017.

  1. Tallman

    Tallman W9WDX Amateur Radio Member, KW4YJ EXTRA class

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    I wanted to share this.


     
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  2. Tallman

    Tallman W9WDX Amateur Radio Member, KW4YJ EXTRA class

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    If you assume 100% efficiency it would take almost 54 horse power to get any where close to 40 KW.
     
  3. TM86

    TM86 Destroyer of radios

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    Snake oil. 100% pure and unfiltered.
     
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    binrat WDX Club Coordinator
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    But, but, but its on the interweb, it must be real......
     
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    rabbiporkchop Well-Known Member

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    This guy died under mysterious circumstances. He claimed to be poisoned before he collapsed and died after meeting with a couple investors. Coroners report says suspected poisoning as cause of death.


     
  6. kopcicle

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    research:
    Brown's gas, Disassociated H20...
    Then ignore the rest and produce enough volume of Brown's gas per minute to sustain an internal or external combustion process capable of producing enough excess electrical energy to crack enough water into enough volume of Brown's gas per minute to sustain an internal or external combustion process capable of producing enough excess electrical energy to crack enough water into ...

    A bit harder to do on a useful scale than you might imagine.

    I'll get you started with a few clues to get you going.
    It's not oxygen and hydrogen by way of electrolysis and DC current. It's disassociation by way of AC current.

    T-304 Stainless and a bit of a catalyst. Palladium, Platinum and iridium are mentioned YMMV

    41.5KHz is some sort of significance for starting or continuing the production.

    It has to be used as it's created since pressurized storage returns it to water.

    If used in a reciprocating engine compression ratio has an upper limit that can frustratingly be found by application of load.

    Sacrificial anodes are required if some sort of centrifugal or axial turbine is used. It may come from water but it's conversion into heat energy eats metal by way of electrolysis.

    Stanly Meyer was a bit odd.

    There, ignore the rest and make up your own mind.
     
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  7. Tallman

    Tallman W9WDX Amateur Radio Member, KW4YJ EXTRA class

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    It is possible to run a car with water that is split by electrolysis. The injector that converts the water directly in the cylinder? Possible, the realm of physics things can change dramatically with a change of a process. High voltage gets pretty freaky, add high frequency to it even more bizarre.
    Matter use to have only three states, solid, liquid, and gas. Add some high frequency high voltage and then you have plasma.
    I think that's what he was doing. That blue tube did look like a high voltage lead.
    An engine built to run on this system would need to have a compression at least as high as a Diesel engine. Not spark ignited but compression ignition, just like a Diesel.
     
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    Real or not it can't happen large scale. Where there are fortunes to be lost, fortunes will not be lost.
     
  9. rabbiporkchop

    rabbiporkchop Well-Known Member

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    Nice G-Wagen. I'm curious about any improvement in fuel mileage.
     
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    ... and don't forget to cut your coax into 18' lengths
     
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    This one looks interesting.
     
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    Cool! but almost as fun to watch, as watching paint dry...
     
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    from wikipedia.org..
    So, who is to say the properties described as "special", must be attributed to the supernatural? Said who? If people can take water and produce a flame from it!! Better yet, a cutting torch?!

    I'd say that is a fuel, beyond refute.
     
  14. Tallman

    Tallman W9WDX Amateur Radio Member, KW4YJ EXTRA class

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    And can do no meaningful work. Frictional losses will stop it the when a load is applied.
    I went back and watched the video on full screen and noticed editing jumps. If you are trying to prove that a process is real, editing jumps destroy the credibility of the video document.
     
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    Tallman W9WDX Amateur Radio Member, KW4YJ EXTRA class

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    Electrolysis is used quite often. A company that manufactured Gas Chromatography equipment used electrolysis to supply a hydrogen flame for the detector circuits. It did not take a huge flame to do that either.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chromatography_column

    The problem for doing that for a vehicle is volume of gas required to run an engine at normal speeds and acceleration rates if it is used as the only fuel consumed for power. They use compressed hydrogen fuel for some UPS trucks and some city fleets.

    Super natural? Have you ever been close to a big explosion? It will put some fear in you for sure!
     
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