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which would you rather have for long distance/skip ?????

omni or beam

  • high powered omni

    Votes: 6 15.4%
  • low/medium powered beam

    Votes: 33 84.6%

  • Total voters
    39
  • Poll closed .
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BOOTY MONSTER

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your favorite omni with a clean 1000 watts pep ??
or...............
a 4 element beam with 200 watts pep ?

with either at the same feed-point height and your choice of H or V polarization .

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would your choice change if the beam was kept at 200 watts pep , but the omni was bumped up to 2000 watts ?
 

I said the beam. A 4 element would have almost the same erp as the higher powered omni but with the ability to reject unwanted signals. You can't work'em if you can't hear'em.
 
yagi,hybrid or quad beam would win hands down every time, less noise from horizontal polarisation, more signal,high directivity, its a no brainer.

verticals excel when working 360 degree local and fringe stuff to multiple stations, of that there is no doubt, but dx more often than not comes from one general direction at a time with one station at a time, which leaves the vast majority of that 360 degree beamwidth of the vertical wasted energy and a source of excessive noise that can mask the wanted signal.

i believe the best compromise of all is one of each type of antenna, i used to run a 3 element yagi on the roof with an antenna specialists mighty magnum 3 above it, whilst in itself the magnum was superb, letting me work into n.ireland line of sight every night/early morning when it was quieter, it was no match for the beam when the beam was locked onto another beam,

the difference was staggering, but for general chatting local and for allround dx listening, the magnum took some beating, listen for the direction of dx on the magnum/any omni and quickly switch to the beam once found is very hard to beat. occasionally the magnum outgunned the beam when talking to a dx station using an omni, but that was the exception and far from the rule as more often than not polarisation gets skewed about via skywave anyway.
 
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The noise level drops considerably when I switch off the vertical omni to the horizontal Yagi. Additionally, the increase in receive from the desired direction is noticable, too.
 
Logic , says the beam..

For now however..
I will stick with the Interceptor I-10K..

Now if you were talking say an 8 element beam..
Well those take up a heck of a lot of room though..
 
Logic , says the beam..

For now however..
I will stick with the Interceptor I-10K..

Now if you were talking say an 8 element beam..
Well those take up a heck of a lot of room though..
So you're saying to stick with the omni over anything short of 8 element?
 
The beam is the best hands down, but I still don't use them myself, at least not on HF.. I personally prefer omnis for their simplicity, and they do a fine job even though they are not directional. In the past I've worked the world on 11m with an Antron 99 and 25W PEP..
 
Actually prefer the Omni..Yes ( for HF )

Gaining access to skip when conditions are good does not really require huge power or a directional antenna (on HF anyways).
Although the Omni will not reject some traffic (like a directional antenna)but this as i see it is actually good..giving you ability to hear other skip stations..
Taking a Big Omni antenna (say for 11 meters) with a decent radio & mike & getting good elevation on the antenna..will enable one in decent or good skip conditions that will not be far more favorable on a small beam/directional antenna..

However a fully different ball game when dealing with VHF & higher frequency's..the sizes of the antennas make it easy to use very high gain directional antennas (even multiple antennas )
 

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