1. You can now help support WorldwideDX when you shop on Amazon at no additional cost to you! Simply follow this Shop on Amazon link first and a portion of any purchase is sent to WorldwideDX to help with site costs.
    Dismiss Notice

Is 2 meter and other bands all dead all the time?

Discussion in 'General Ham Radio Discussion' started by Rwb, Aug 24, 2018.

  1. Rwb

    Rwb Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 30, 2018
    Messages:
    570
    Likes Received:
    363
    Was thinking of getting my ham ticket,but after monitering a few bands i never hear anybody.
    I got a like new kenwood tm 271,baofeng uv 5rv2+ and an old multi band radio.yesterday not a soul on any of them
    There is a hamfest this weekend near me.thinking im selling the whole kit n kaboodle n buying something like my delta force but in a base radio. At least i can hear voices on the galaxy 99v,president grant and my delta force.


     

  2. Radio Tech

    Radio Tech Radio Operator

    Joined:
    Sep 9, 2008
    Messages:
    832
    Likes Received:
    218
    Well all I can say is do not base this experience on ham radio. V/UHF has been declining for years. I see repeaters sit idle for days only hearing the ID transmit.
    At certain times during morning and late nights your all mode may come to life. I have worked stations from NC to NY on 2 meter ssb.
    I seen folks try and base this off of 6 meters before.

    HF is the bands to be on.
     
    Tallman and Captain Kilowatt like this.
  3. BJ radionut

    BJ radionut Supporting Member and 6m addict

    Joined:
    May 9, 2008
    Messages:
    1,797
    Likes Received:
    951
    Yes: Local FM repeaters vary in usage...Morning and evening drive times here in my area are the most used...During SKYWARN nets etc...
    2 meter FM Simplex operation is very popular here in Central Ind....However, unless you have a vertical ground plane antenna correctly tuned at 30-50ft with some good gain and good feedline...you will never hear it. Listening on a rubber duck or whip mobile antenna say on a file cabinet will likely not yield good or any results.
    2m SSB again for good reception will require a suitable Horizontal Beam/or dipole at least 30ft or more in height...or at least a "HALO" antenna at that height with good low loss feedline to expect any descent results. To get good results on 2m any mode...requires putting in the work in the antenna system to achieve good results from a base usage stand point. The 440 band even more so.
    The "multi-band" radio not sure what you have but again Antenna...Antenna...Antenna is where you will see your best results.
    On HF daily I can work Coast to Coast most days depending on band and time of day.
    I have worked Europe/Africa/S. Am etc.. on 6m SSB just in the last 3-4 months...but again I have a 5 element Horizontal beam at 40ft and run at least 100w PEP full time.
    So potential is there. Most Hams will tell you first off...top shelve rigs are nice to have but without a good antenna system it's a BOAT ANCHOR".
    I would rather have a old reasonable priced used/Hamfest special rig and Good antenna system...Than Top notched rigs and a G5RV or Endfed antenna at 20ft any day...MHO
    All the Best
    Gary/W9FNB
     
    #3 BJ radionut, Aug 24, 2018
    Last edited: Aug 24, 2018
  4. w9cll

    w9cll W9WDX Amateur Radio Club Member

    Joined:
    Jan 19, 2013
    Messages:
    3,286
    Likes Received:
    1,915
    Most here in the Chicago area have moved over to DMR. The repeaters are dead 90% of the day with most of the activity during the drive times. I am hardly on VHF/UHF any more focusing my time time on the HF bands.
     
    wavrider likes this.
  5. Rwb

    Rwb Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 30, 2018
    Messages:
    570
    Likes Received:
    363
    Well i got a big antenna a deceased ham operators widow gave me to just take it down. Its hf.and thats where i got the multi band yeasu. As for baofeng i put a genuine nyagoa antenna on it.came in their special bag n has their trademark name on it.i get in our bigest town not much except buisnesses on it
     
  6. BJ radionut

    BJ radionut Supporting Member and 6m addict

    Joined:
    May 9, 2008
    Messages:
    1,797
    Likes Received:
    951
    Good Deal!...BUT WHAT RIG Model # and what is the antenna and how did you install it?
    The Rubber Duck antenna even the best ones have maybe a range of 5-10 miles depending on the repeaters receive height...For FM Simplex pretty much worthless outside of 3 or 4 miles in open terrain.
    All the Best
    Gary
     
  7. Riverman71

    Riverman71 Part-time Member

    Joined:
    Nov 12, 2013
    Messages:
    1,293
    Likes Received:
    673
    I agree, Gary! (y)
    But right now, an endfed at 20' (17, actually) is what I have.
    And it's in my attic.
    With this setup I have talked to twenty states thus far, and South America on 10, 20, 40 meters. Mostly using 10 watts. :)
    I may be nuts o_O, but I think QRP is cool. :cool:
     
  8. Tallman

    Tallman W9WDX Amateur Radio Member, KW4YJ EXTRA class

    Joined:
    May 1, 2013
    Messages:
    2,866
    Likes Received:
    1,856
    If your antenna is not setup properly you won't hear much. What are multiband radio bands listed? 160, 80, 40, 20, and ten would be my guess. You need antennas that match the bands. A long wire of around 100ft will work on receive, but not transmit.
     
  9. Robb

    Robb Yup

    Joined:
    Dec 18, 2008
    Messages:
    10,854
    Likes Received:
    2,504
    Most - if not all - net meetings are of either of ARES or RACES affiliations, so in bad storms or emergency situations should arise they will become very active.

    You can always look any local net on the internet by whatever state you are in, and they will give the station callsign, freq, offset, and pl tone for those repeaters close to you.

    Other than that, 146.520mhz is the simplex nat'l call freq. That would be the local ragchew freq. That is another freq to program in and get to know your local operators by.
     
  10. w9cll

    w9cll W9WDX Amateur Radio Club Member

    Joined:
    Jan 19, 2013
    Messages:
    3,286
    Likes Received:
    1,915
    I used to play around in the mobile running 10w and worked all over, it was fun.
     
    Riverman71 likes this.
  11. 543_Dallas

    543_Dallas Sr. Member

    Joined:
    Jul 25, 2011
    Messages:
    1,668
    Likes Received:
    1,689
    QRP is cool but can be fatiguing for the poor guy on the receiving end.

    You can get some adapters and connect an outdoor antenna to your HT. If there is anything happening and you're using a rubber duck antenna you won't be hearing much of it.
     
    Shadetree Mechanic and binrat like this.
  12. Grinder74

    Grinder74 KE8EOJ

    Joined:
    Sep 23, 2012
    Messages:
    208
    Likes Received:
    37
    I live between Cincinnati and Dayton and work 2nd shift. I hear some chatter on simplex and repeaters but mostly weekends.
     
  13. binrat

    binrat WDX Club Coordinator
    Staff Member

    Joined:
    Nov 5, 2008
    Messages:
    1,984
    Likes Received:
    622
    Band conditions are nit the best as I only got 9 contacts Friday using 45 watts and a dipole at 18'. On 20 metres of course. My hiking psrtner got 6 on 17 metres running 40 watts.
     
    wavrider likes this.
  14. Rwb

    Rwb Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 30, 2018
    Messages:
    570
    Likes Received:
    363
    well,attended the local hamfest. asked a few questions.was treated like i shouldnt be there.i got the impression i was at a sority meeting n wasnt in it. bought 2 items from a very snobbish dealer but he was the only 1 that had what i needed. he was snobbish to a fellow who was a member n asked for his member discount.the dealer snapped him off.if i hadnt paid for my items id said put em where the sun shines.
    the guy who was treated bad walked off with me n we talked a bit.we set my antenna up n he helped set swr .he did know 1 person who talked to him n said my radio soundede fine.
    my wife said YOUR NOT GETTING INTO THIS KINDA CLANNISH PEOPLE.
    In next few days im selling my tm 271 kenwood and antenna . sorry people not much to hear on radio n where id have to take the test has the kind of people im not interested in being around.
     
  15. Riverman71

    Riverman71 Part-time Member

    Joined:
    Nov 12, 2013
    Messages:
    1,293
    Likes Received:
    673
    Sorry to hear that.
    I took my Technician test in a small neighboring town. It was sponsored by the local ham club and held in a church fellowship hall. From the moment I nervously walked in, I was treated like a long lost friend and made to feel at home. I loved the experience and returned there for both my General and Extra.

    There are two sides to every coin. :)
     
    #15 Riverman71, Aug 26, 2018
    Last edited: Aug 26, 2018

Share This Page

  • About Us

    The WorldwideDX Radio Forum was originally established in 2001. We pride ourselves on welcoming Radio Hobby enthusiasts of all types, while offering unbiased, informative, and friendly discussion among the members. We are working every day to make sure our community is the best Radio Hobbyist's site.
  • Like us on Facebook

  • Premium VIP Member

    The management works very hard to make sure the community is running the best software, best designs, and all the other bells and whistles. Care to buy us a beer? We'd really appreciate it!

    Donate to us!