@BJ radionut thanks. I was going to jump into the antenna subject in my last post but thought otherwise, thank you for bringing it up. As a new guy I hear things. LOL sounds like a double naught spy opening line. Antennas are key. I think Night thumper aided me big time with the endorsement of 718s, as well a a few other men. The price suits me just fine as well. There's always the ' next radio' consciousness, just like the next spinning reel, or next Fenwick fishing pole, the next rifle, the next car, the next next. I will certainly look into your suggestions as well. I appreciate your sticking by me through this thread your help is valuable.